I think my crab may have died

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I think my crab may have died

Post by Danielled43 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:37 pm

Since you've come to the emergency forum, we know you want a fast answer to your question. In order for us to figure out the problem as quickly as possible, we ask that you answer the following questions as best you can. Some of them may seem odd, but they're all designed to give us the information we need to give you a good solution for your problem. The things in the [ brackets ] are there to make this post easier to read once submitted. Thanks!


1. What kind of substrate is used in your tank and how deep is it? Zoo Med Eco earth coconut fiber and it is 6” deep.


2. Do you have gauges in the tank to measure temperature and humidity? If so, where are they located and what temperature and humidity do they usually read?
Yes. It is located on the back wall of the tank. They read temperature 80 and humidity 70-90

3. Is a heat source used in the tank? If so, what? Yes. I use thrive heating mat. It is placed on the side of the tank just above the substrate.


4. What types of water are available (fresh or salt) and how is the water treated (what brands of dechlorinator or salt mix and what ratio is used to mix it)? Both fresh and salt water are available. I use jurassipet hermit safe dechlorinator and imagitarium salt water bottles.


5. What kinds of food do you feed and how often is it replaced? I replace the food everyday. I feed fruit such as strawberries and then I like to give them red bell pepper, plain cooked chicken, coconut for a treat, tomatoes and pellet food which is Zoo med hermit crab pellets. I usually give my crabs about 3-4 different food choices each night.


6. How long have you had the crab and what species is it, if known?
5 months and I think PP but I’m not exactly sure.

7. Has your crab molted, and how long ago did it happen?
Yes both of my crabs have molted. One went down April 16 and came up June 22 and is doing great. The other one went down May 27 and came up July 3rd and I believe this crab might be deceased.

8. What type of housing are the crabs kept in, what size is it and what kind of lid is on the housing?
10 gallon tank with a sliding mesh lid that I cover to keep humidity in.

9. How many crabs are in the tank and about how large are they?
2 crabs. They are small golf ball size or smaller.

10. How many extra shells are usually kept in the tank, if any?
I keep 6 shells in the tank but my crabs have not changed shells.
I also made sure that the shells have nice round openings
11. Have there been any fumes or chemicals near the crabitat recently?
No

12. How often do you clean the tank and how?
I always change the food. I spot clean and change the water every other day. I also have recently changed the whole tank substrate and boiled everything inside the tank.

13. Are sponges used in the water dish? If so, how are they cleaned?
No

14. Has anything new been added to your crabitat recently?
No

15. Is there any other information you would like to share that might be helpful (anything that is regularly part of your crab care, playtime, bathing, etc.)?
I did recently notice that a log in my tank was starting to mold. Once I noticed I immediately got rid of it but I’m not sure if my crab may have eaten it.

16. Please describe the emergency situation in detail.
Recently I’ve been noticing that my crabs seem to not be eating. I know this because there is no dirt on the bowl and the substrate around it is smooth. My one crab hermey is doing good hes been climbing and hiding, doing his thing. My other crab Rudolph has been hiding behind a plant not moving, not eating. Today I noticed that Rudolph was hanging out of his shell I picked him up and he went back in but seemed very unresponsive. I put him back down and 20 mins later I noticed he is almost all the way out of his shell. He isn’t responding to any movements I sprayed him a little with water and he did not move at all. He is just hanging out of his shell pale. I dont know what to do and I dont know what went wrong. I already quarantined him so my other crab can’t get to him and I also put honey in front of him but I really do think he might be deceased because he is not moving at all. I noticed his weird behavior started a week or two after he came back up from his molt July 3rd. Does anyone have any advice on what to do I’m so sad this is happening. Thank you

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Re: I think my crab may have died

Post by GotButterflies » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:25 pm

Hello. I responded GB for GotButterflies.
Danielled43 wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:37 pm
Since you've come to the emergency forum, we know you want a fast answer to your question. In order for us to figure out the problem as quickly as possible, we ask that you answer the following questions as best you can. Some of them may seem odd, but they're all designed to give us the information we need to give you a good solution for your problem. The things in the [ brackets ] are there to make this post easier to read once submitted. Thanks!


1. What kind of substrate is used in your tank and how deep is it? Zoo Med Eco earth coconut fiber and it is 6” deep.

GB: Substrate should be mixed with dechlorinated marine saltwater or dechlorinated freshwater to make the substrate sandcastle consistency. I personally mix mine with dechlorinated marine saltwater.

2. Do you have gauges in the tank to measure temperature and humidity? If so, where are they located and what temperature and humidity do they usually read?
Yes. It is located on the back wall of the tank. They read temperature 80 and humidity 70-90


GB: IMO Humidity should never dip below 80. Hermit crabs have modified gills and need the humidity to breathe.
Humidity boosters: Bubblers definitely do help boost the humidity. Double dish bubblers: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... r#p1030806

You can also add moss pits to help. You would use organic moss (as well as moss that is on the safe list), and moisten it with dechlorinated fresh water. Then, put the moss in a shower caddy or a glass vase laying on it's side so the hermits can walk in and out of it. Glass tops also help keep humidity in.

Are you gauges analog then? IMO, analog gauges aren't reliable. If you are interested, this is what I use: Acurite guage from Amazon, digital, runs on batteries, tells you temp and humidity currently as well as low and high for last 24 hours: https://smile.amazon.com/AcuRite-00325- ... 184&sr=8-2


3. Is a heat source used in the tank? If so, what? Yes. I use thrive heating mat. It is placed on the side of the tank just above the substrate.


4. What types of water are available (fresh or salt) and how is the water treated (what brands of dechlorinator or salt mix and what ratio is used to mix it)? Both fresh and salt water are available. I use jurassipet hermit safe dechlorinator and imagitarium salt water bottles.

GB: Unfortunately most products marketed for hermit crabs are not safe. A lot of us use a product called Instant Ocean which is what aquarium hobbyists use to make saltwater aquariums. It has the essential trace elements that hermit crabs need. :) You need a dechlorinator that removes chlorine, and chloramine as well as neutralizes ammonia and heavy metals. A lot of us use a product called Prime. As far as salt, you need marine salt, to mimic the ocean. You have to use the dechlorinator for both freshwater and marine saltwater. Both pools should be deep enough for them to fully submerge in and safe enough for them to get out of.

5. What kinds of food do you feed and how often is it replaced? I replace the food everyday. I feed fruit such as strawberries and then I like to give them red bell pepper, plain cooked chicken, coconut for a treat, tomatoes and pellet food which is Zoo med hermit crab pellets. I usually give my crabs about 3-4 different food choices each night.

GB: Hermit crabs can eat a lot of the same things that we eat. Just check to make sure the item is on the safe list. Foods should be organic when possible. Hermit crabs are sensitive to pesticides and fertilizers.
You also want to provide one or more calcium sources at all times. Examples would be Cuttlebone, Organic Eggshell, Oyster Shell, Lobster Exo, Shrimp Exo.
Make sure you cover all aspects of food pyramid :)
Safe food list: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 25&t=92557
Unsafe food list: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 25&t=92556
Food pyramid: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 25&t=92554


6. How long have you had the crab and what species is it, if known?
5 months and I think PP but I’m not exactly sure.

7. Has your crab molted, and how long ago did it happen?
Yes both of my crabs have molted. One went down April 16 and came up June 22 and is doing great. The other one went down May 27 and came up July 3rd and I believe this crab might be deceased.

8. What type of housing are the crabs kept in, what size is it and what kind of lid is on the housing?
10 gallon tank with a sliding mesh lid that I cover to keep humidity in.

GB: With mesh lids you can always cover them with Press-N-Seal, or tape Ziploc bags on them to help keep the humidty in.

9. How many crabs are in the tank and about how large are they?
2 crabs. They are small golf ball size or smaller.

10. How many extra shells are usually kept in the tank, if any?
I keep 6 shells in the tank but my crabs have not changed shells.
I also made sure that the shells have nice round openings

GB: The HCA recommends 3-5 shells per hermit crab. I personally recommend more. It never hurts to have more :) There are incorrect shells to buy. Here is the shell guide: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 24&t=92552

11. Have there been any fumes or chemicals near the crabitat recently?
No

12. How often do you clean the tank and how?
I always change the food. I spot clean and change the water every other day. I also have recently changed the whole tank substrate and boiled everything inside the tank.

GB: It is only necessary to clean out the poop, food and water. You only need to clean the sand if you have mold growing on it or if you have a bacteria bloom. I have never changed my sand.


13. Are sponges used in the water dish? If so, how are they cleaned?
No

14. Has anything new been added to your crabitat recently?
No

15. Is there any other information you would like to share that might be helpful (anything that is regularly part of your crab care, playtime, bathing, etc.)?
I did recently notice that a log in my tank was starting to mold. Once I noticed I immediately got rid of it but I’m not sure if my crab may have eaten it.

16. Please describe the emergency situation in detail.
Recently I’ve been noticing that my crabs seem to not be eating. I know this because there is no dirt on the bowl and the substrate around it is smooth. My one crab hermey is doing good hes been climbing and hiding, doing his thing. My other crab Rudolph has been hiding behind a plant not moving, not eating. Today I noticed that Rudolph was hanging out of his shell I picked him up and he went back in but seemed very unresponsive. I put him back down and 20 mins later I noticed he is almost all the way out of his shell. He isn’t responding to any movements I sprayed him a little with water and he did not move at all. He is just hanging out of his shell pale. I dont know what to do and I dont know what went wrong. I already quarantined him so my other crab can’t get to him and I also put honey in front of him but I really do think he might be deceased because he is not moving at all. I noticed his weird behavior started a week or two after he came back up from his molt July 3rd. Does anyone have any advice on what to do I’m so sad this is happening. Thank you

GB: I'm sorry that you are going through this. It does sound like he may have passed. Try giving him honey, protein and calcium. Wait until he smells. It's not your fault. The pet stores misinform you about these beautiful little creatures. Try to purchase the right products asap, and make the changes that I suggested :) HUGS! :)
Truly blessed to have incredible creatures, wonderful friends and my amazing family in my life!! I'm very thankful & grateful for all of them! www.thehealthyhermit.com

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