Separating Rosemary Oil from Rosemary Extract

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Separating Rosemary Oil from Rosemary Extract

Post by JediMasterThrash » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:29 pm

Is there any research to backup the claim that Rosemary Extract is unsafe for hermit crabs?I did a bit of research, and the two compounds in rosemary extract are:caffeic acidrosemarinic acidI can't find any information on either being a pesticide or insecticide, or otherwise harmful to crustaceans.However, I did find evidence that caffeic acid has been falsely listed as hazardous on old datasheets, which may be where the "unsafe" label came from.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeic_acidNow, there are old experiments that showed caffeic acid to be a carcinogen. However, recently those old results were discredited, as it was bacteria in the rats' stomach that caused an increase in stomach, and not a direct result of normal amounts of caffeic acid.It's actually an excellent antioxidant, and is actually a carcinogenic-inhibitor (prevents cancer), along with many other health benefits.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosmarinic_acidRosmarinic acid is actually a dimer or caffeic acid, and is an anti-oxident as well.---------------------On the other hand, Rosemary Oil is an insecticide. Rosemary is actually a type of evergreen, so that comes as no surprise I guess.However, rosemary oil is not the same thing as rosemary extract. I guess this is like that aloe oil vs. aloe skin argument. Supposedly the oil is extracted from the flowers, while the extract is extracted from the leaves.Rosemary oil contains a-pinene, borneol, ß-pinene, camphor, bornyl acetate, camphene, 1,8-cineole and limonene.Additionally, A large amount of rosemary oil is necessary to kill just the tiniest mites, and the lethal compounds are so volatile they don't stay lethal for more than 2 days. It's doubtful that trace amounts would affect a hermit crab. I'd bet the beneficial affects would outweigh the bad at trace levels.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_OilThe wikipedia entry even lists that rosemary essential oil and whole leaves could be harmful to humans. However, this just goes to show the difference between the extract of caffeic acid vs. the essential oils, where caffeic acid is beneficial as an antioxidant and carcinogenic-inhibitor.-----------------------------So my tentative conclusion is that Rosemary leaves and Rosemary essential oils would be harmful to crabs. But Rosemary Extract may be beneficial.
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Separating Rosemary Oil from Rosemary Extract

Post by Tetra4CClyPtus » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:25 am

I got natural rosemary ( pesticide free) growing, so I take branches and put in the crabitat. So I know that it is a natural pesticide; is that true??
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