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Half pine hides

Post by crabby33 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:42 am

The Land Hermit Crab Owner’s society says no to half pine hides when people here have been using them with no issues. Their issue with it is that it gives off fumes in a sealed tank and the crabs will eat the bark. But if you use half pine log hides in a crabitat, will it give off fumes that could potentially harm the crabs? Pine is on the unsafe list here so that new crab owners can see they shouldn’t put pine branches, needles or bark in the tank. I can see that giving off fumes that could be harmful, but not a half log hide that is not fresh from the tree and has had time to air out.

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Post by RiNiKy506 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:24 am

I have one of the ZooMed Habba Huts, I never paid attention to what it was made out of. I hope it’s not harmful!

Edit: I looked up what the zoomed ones were made out of and it said “fir hide” so it’s not pine. I guess there is a difference so I’m assuming that’s why they’re ok, depending on what kind you have. Image

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Post by JoeHermits » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:43 am

Pine wood is on the unsafe list because it can give off fumes (“pine scent”) that can build up in a tank. Vertebrates have been found to have respiratory problems when this happens.

The half logs sold for reptiles have been dried and aired, so they don’t give off fumes. They are perfectly safe for hermit crabs and have been used by crabbers for years.

Just don’t use fresh conifers and you’ll be fine.


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Re: Half pine hides

Post by crabby33 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:27 am

I agree that they’re safe to use. I can’t tell them it’s safe either. The other group doesn’t care. It’s like “Those are pine. They’re not safe. Take them out of the tank.” But I think you take that risk when you join these Facebook hermit crab talk pages. The admins in charge can tell you to remove anything from your tank if it is not in line with their recommendations. Including sub.

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Re: Half pine hides

Post by wodesorel » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:01 am

I always make the suggestion to buy something else only because they have a tendency to mold in high humidity. I've had a few rot right through over the years. As our members have shown, it doesn't hurt hermits, just wallets.

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Post by soilentgringa » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:55 am

crabby33 wrote:I agree that they’re safe to use. I can’t tell them it’s safe either. The other group doesn’t care. It’s like “Those are pine. They’re not safe. Take them out of the tank.” But I think you take that risk when you join these Facebook hermit crab talk pages. The admins in charge can tell you to remove anything from your tank if it is not in line with their recommendations. Including sub.

People on the internet can tell you whatever they want to; it doesn’t mean you have to automatically believe them or do what they tell you to.


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Re: Half pine hides

Post by Stephjan51015 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:53 am

I think for the molding wood problem, a salt water scrub/soak and bake in the oven is suggested. Wouldn't that make it safe too?

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Post by aussieJJDude » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:53 am

Stephjan51015 wrote:I think for the molding wood problem, a salt water scrub/soak and bake in the oven is suggested. Wouldn't that make it safe too?
That does work, but due to pine being a relatively soft wood its prone of breaking down rather quickly regardless of mould/no mould.

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