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Re: Spring water

Post by CrabbyLover77 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:09 pm


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Keep in mind, prime does not really affect bacteria and some contaminates (thinking biological derived contaminated), so it isn't 100% fool proof.
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wodesorel wrote: I have been paranoid ever since taking Environmental Geology 101. The professor was responsible for maping well contamination for a university project. Something about one of the popular pizza places serving coliform bacteria along with their crispy crust. Image And about the amount of bacteria that grows in Brita filters when left out at room temperature, because once that chlorine is removed from tap water it is a free for all. Ughhhhh
Ew, that all sounds so yucky! I could never drink the water at my old house because the chlorine taste was too much. It was probably stopping a lot of bacteria though. ImageImage Now I can drink the well water through a filter in the fridge, but wonder what's going in there? Image I'll try not to think about it lol.

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Re: Spring water

Post by crabbycasey » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:18 am

Good read. Thought I’d chime in and mention that my cousin used to work for the city, something with water (don’t know his title)...and he said “if you knew what was in your tap water you’d never drink it again”. I didn’t ask any specific questions, but I don’t drink tap water anymore, lol.


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crabbycasey wrote:Good read. Thought I’d chime in and mention that my cousin used to work for the city, something with water (don’t know his title)...and he said “if you knew what was in your tap water you’d never drink it again”. I didn’t ask any specific questions, but I don’t drink tap water anymore, lol.


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It sounds like water in general, tap or bottled, has all kinds of heebie jeebies in it lol!

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Re: Spring water

Post by wodesorel » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:26 pm

crabbycasey wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:18 am
Good read. Thought I’d chime in and mention that my cousin used to work for the city, something with water (don’t know his title)...and he said “if you knew what was in your tap water you’d never drink it again”. I didn’t ask any specific questions, but I don’t drink tap water anymore, lol.


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We have a wonderful colleague who works treatment plants at both ends (water and sewer) and he always says the same thing. He still drinks it though!
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Re: Spring water

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wodesorel wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:23 pm
I have been paranoid ever since taking Environmental Geology 101. The professor was responsible for maping well contamination for a university project. Something about one of the popular pizza places serving coliform bacteria along with their crispy crust. 🤢 And about the amount of bacteria that grows in Brita filters when left out at room temperature, because once that chlorine is removed from tap water it is a free for all. Ughhhhh
Which is why I have a large APEC water filtration system for my drinking and cooking. It's not just chlorine and heavy metals that makes tap water unsafe, but also artificial fluoride. My family also stays away from fluoride in toothpaste.
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crabbycasey wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:18 am
Good read. Thought I’d chime in and mention that my cousin used to work for the city, something with water (don’t know his title)...and he said “if you knew what was in your tap water you’d never drink it again”. I didn’t ask any specific questions, but I don’t drink tap water anymore, lol.


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Aww, I really wanna know what on earth is in our (or US) water supplies. Can you ask him for the deets? :innocent:
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Re: Spring water

Post by JoeHermits » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:42 am

From what I’ve read, tap water in the U.S. can contain all matter of pharmaceuticals (apparently dumping pills in the toilet is a thing), pesticides (agricultural runoff), and industrial waste (water expelled from plants often contains trace, or even not trace, amounts of chemicals used in the plants). Water treatment plants will filter out organics but most chemicals go right through.

Bottled spring water has been found to contain less of all of the above thanks to heavy processing being the new norm, but it has significantly higher levels of microplastics.

But we could just use pure rain water, right? No, because it contains everything that our cars, factories, and industrial plants spew into the atmosphere, including various chemicals and heavy metals.

Long story short we’ve contaminated almost every water source on the planet and it’s a biological wonder life can still exist. Thank you liver.


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Re: Spring water

Post by crabbycasey » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:17 am

aussieJJDude wrote: Aww, I really wanna know what on earth is in our (or US) water supplies. Can you ask him for the deets? :innocent:
I would love to...but my cousin sort of lives off the grid and has no phone. I rarely see him, maybe on holidays and it was years ago that he worked for the city. JoeHermits gives a good enough description to sum up why you wouldn’t want to drink it though, lol. Ugh.


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Re: Spring water

Post by quinnn12 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:31 am

HermitofHermitCrabs wrote:
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That’s why I test brands from time to time. Both Great Value and Ozarka are legit.
So would Great Value jugs of purified water from walmart be safe for them?

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Re: Spring water

Post by HermitofHermitCrabs » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:04 pm

quinnn12 wrote:
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So would Great Value jugs of purified water from walmart be safe for them?
No, because purified water is just filtered tap water. You want the blue top gallons labeled Spring Water.
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Re: Spring water

Post by Momma And Company » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:35 pm

quinnn12 wrote:
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So I am needing to use better water and have been thinking about ordering some Prime for it. Even with that though, using tap water makes me really nervous. Is it safe to use spring water without treating it? Will I have problems with ammonia or anything dangerous in spring water? If I used spring or distilled for my salt water and spring for my fresh water would it be safe for them and all that? This feels repetitive but I just want to cover all my bases.
Have you tested your tap water? I know this is probably beating a dead horse, but using an API Master Kit for freshwater fish really helps.

It all depends on your source. This also ties in an helps with if you're eventually going to or already are, using "cycled" fresh and salt water pools.

"Spring" water is usually just an advertisement ploy if you buy it by the bottle - most are bottled from tap water in various locations around the country or world. Thus using "Prime" - it kills chlorine, heavy metals, etc. if used correctly and if you want to, you can treat your new water and then "out-gas" it by letting it sit for a day or two - this lets any dissolved gases in your water escape.

Ordinarily "spring" water" means there's no chemicals but it has all of the minerals, nutrients in it. "Distilled" water however, filters out ALL of the minerals and such. This is why if you iron clothes, distilled is recommended so it doesn't crud up your iron holes, etc. It's also used a lot for car radiators mixing with antifreeze and such. With distilled, if you can trust it, it usually means it's filtered for EVERYTHING. "Spring", depends.

This is also where the API Master Test Kit comes in handy - crabbies in the wild are exposed to fresh and salt water with minerals, etc. in it so I'm not in favor of distilled water forever. I'd rather know what my tap source or other source, has and go from there.

I've just now started to look into this, in terms of crabbie care - but from my fish background, here's what I THINK I know. Fresh and salt water pools - test your source, Prime and change out your water in each pool every 2-3 days. Scrub down your containers too, especially if your have hard water. Treat 1 gallon containers of tested water with Prime and mix marine salt for the salt water one.

If you have BIG pools like 1 gallon or more and they're cycled like for fish, or you ARE cycling for fish.. this is different. Also if you have bubblers even in smaller pools, this could create new situations.

If you have questions, please ask!

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