Such A Long Time Molting...

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Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by Tiamat » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:05 pm

Soooo, heeey. What's up, I'm not dead. Again.

My two medium hermies have been molting since June. Sheldon popped up for about a week, then went back down where Leonard was. I'm not too worried about that, though.

The last time (also in June), it took them about a month and a half. This is pushing the five month-, almost six, month-mark...

No, seriously. Should I be worried? Because I am.

There's no smell or anything going on... I try to keep the sub as wet as I can since I know for a fact Leonard buried himself somewhere near the heating mat (you know my humidity stays at almost 99% even when I forget to mist for a few days on end?! I still don't know how...), but, still...

Anyone else ever have such a long molt? I understand with larges and jumbos, but with just barely-counting-as-mediums? Really?


...Also, I'm scared they'll come up as freakishly-larges and I'll have to go on a shell-spending spree... :cry: Honestly, I'm terrified of that. My mother agreed to look after them when I leave for Japan in a year, but she's made it known that she finds large hermit crabs utterly terrifying, so... Their housing situation is riding 100% on this molt, and that's nerve-wracking.
Sheldon and Leonard - RIP 1/11/15
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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by CallaLily » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:31 pm

It is concerning. However, and I know this is difficult, I think it's still best to wait it out. I know it stinks not knowing but if this crab passed there isn't really anything you can do. BUT, if this crab's ok, disturbing him can cause him harm (and any other crabs that may be down). In the end it's your decision.

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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by Tiamat » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:53 pm

I agree that digging the crabs up isn't exactly a good idea; I wouldn't want to be the actual cause of their deaths! I promise, the idea hasn't been given any serious consideration.

I'm glad you find this as concerning as I do (even though that's probably not a good thing?). I keep telling myself the molting process takes time, but the length of it is just so strange... For now, I'll keep doing what I've been doing: Misting the sub, keeping the dry food mold-free, checking the temps...

Honestly, though, if it hits the end of December, I'm going to start panicking for real.

Hopefully someone will chime in with a similar story. That would be reassuring!
Sheldon and Leonard - RIP 1/11/15
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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by CrabbySquirrel » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:30 am

One of our crabs pulled a back-to-back molt that took a long time---he was literally up for ONE day, then went back down to molt again and regrew a limb. If I hadn't been looking closely, I would have missed him up for that one day and would have been thinking it was a very long molt. I wonder if it's possible that's what is happening? In any case, good luck! I hope everything goes well....

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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by YYWW » Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:00 am

Are they Es? My Es seem to get drawn out with water changes, so if you had Es i was going to make some suggestions.
PPs are pretty random on the other hand. Maybe he found a comfortable spot and has been nesting/destressing and molting. My crabs also seem to enjoy being underground and in the moss pits a lot. Maybe too much......
How long have you had them?


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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by Tiamat » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:18 am

CrabbySquirrel wrote:One of our crabs pulled a back-to-back molt that took a long time---he was literally up for ONE day, then went back down to molt again and regrew a limb. If I hadn't been looking closely, I would have missed him up for that one day and would have been thinking it was a very long molt. I wonder if it's possible that's what is happening? In any case, good luck! I hope everything goes well....
I completely forgot about that, actually...!

Sheldon came up after the two month-mark for about a week, then went down where Leonard was. I honestly think he was lonely... He kept sleeping over where Leonard had originally dug down instead of high up in the moss pit likes always.

I haven't seen any food disturbed or any of the water getting dirty from dipping, so I didn't think about that!

YYWW wrote:Are they Es? My Es seem to get drawn out with water changes, so if you had Es i was going to make some suggestions.
PPs are pretty random on the other hand. Maybe he found a comfortable spot and has been nesting/destressing and molting. My crabs also seem to enjoy being underground and in the moss pits a lot. Maybe too much......
How long have you had them?
No, two PPs. We just started our bi-yearly rain season over here, so I was hoping the sudden rain would bring them out, as well. No such luck, apparently.
I've had time for about a year and a half, almost, now.

They love being up in the moss pit. Like, all the time. They enjoy burying random fake shells I throw in the tank for their amusement, but they seem to like being high rather than low. If that's what they're doing, then this is definitely a new habit.

Hmm... Nesting? Being near the heating pad might do it, then? I just turned it up, too, I'll need to be careful with that...
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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by YYWW » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:29 am

Every one of my crabs pile into the moss pit, but then some PP will surprise me by coming up from under when i thought they were in the moss for weeks. Then when i think one is molting, he will come out from the moss pit! One thing's for sure, they dont always leave discernable evidence of what they're up to. I've seen them carry around without noticeable disturbing and sub. Then i've seen them till the while tank in minutes. It's apparent to me that there's just no control or keeping track over these guys. I stopped keeping my activity log and just let them do their thing.
Try to calibrate your thermometer. You will need a different thermometer to take a freezing or boiling point, then calibrate your tank guage against that one, since it's not likely your tank guage can take a freezing/boiling reading. Knowing what your temps are might help you figure the situation out.


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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by Tiamat » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:13 pm

YYWW wrote:Try to calibrate your thermometer. You will need a different thermometer to take a freezing or boiling point, then calibrate your tank guage against that one, since it's not likely your tank guage can take a freezing/boiling reading. Knowing what your temps are might help you figure the situation out.
I'm slightly confused as to why you ask for freezing/boiling points. Can you explain that a bit to me?

According to my Accurite gauge, my highs and lows range from 72*F-82*F. We just got past our cold front today, which explains the difference in today's readings from last night to now (it resets itself around 7 PM). I typically have a constant 77*F-78*F reading. The monitor is on the far side of the tank, opposite to the heating pad-side.
Does this help any?
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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by YYWW » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:22 pm

Thermometers can be off in temperature as well. The only way to tell is if you compare your thermometer against an absolute reading, which requires either freezing or boiling point. But most thermometers used in crabitats are unable to take boiling or freezing readings due to the way temperature is taken, as opposed to a candy or meat thermometer. So first you woukd need to successfully calibrate a candy or meat thermometer, and then check your crabitat thermometer against it.


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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by Tiamat » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:10 pm

Ahhhhh, I understand. I think I can get my hands on a meat thermometer at the supermarket, so I'll get back to you on that one. Thanks!
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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by YYWW » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:00 pm

Good luck! Keep me posted


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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by Drakezilla » Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:20 pm

Oh my Gosh, great names!!
Mine was a serial molter for a long time. He'd go down for like three months then surface for a week and go back down! I swear! It wasn't until he became a large he stopped molting so much! Even after years of him pulling this crap I STILL worry and miss him.

I know it sucks, but just keep an eye on them. I found that mine tends to go down in the fall / winter usually. I'm in Florida, so it's not hard to keep the conditions up but I just find his molts happen around that time. Crabs are weird, worrisome little buggers sometimes
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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by gotta-crab-em-all » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:45 pm

Omanyte was gone for 4 months before she came back up once, and she is/was small at the time. Granted, she came up with toothpick legs and scrawny claws, but she did make a miraculous appearance after I declared her dead!
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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by KellyCrabbieLove » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:05 am

Drakezilla wrote:Oh my Gosh, great names!! Image
Mine was a serial molter for a long time. He'd go down for like three months then surface for a week and go back down! I swear! It wasn't until he became a large he stopped molting so much! Even after years of him pulling this crap I STILL worry and miss him.

I know it sucks, but just keep an eye on them. I found that mine tends to go down in the fall / winter usually. I'm in Florida, so it's not hard to keep the conditions up but I just find his molts happen around that time. Crabs are weird, worrisome little buggers sometimes ImageImage
I maintain that crabs are just weird. Lol Any weird behavior I chalk up to them being crabs and therefore weird.
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Re: Such A Long Time Molting...

Post by Tiamat » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:53 pm

Thanks for your relpys! Kelly, my mother's favorite show is the Big Bang Theory~ :D


I just got my meat them., and, just to be clear: This is just like using my AccuRite? Calibrate it, then lay it in the tank, not in the ground?
How do I do this, exactly? Sorry, I'm still a tad bit confused on the actual process.

Thanks!
Sheldon and Leonard - RIP 1/11/15
"TIA IS.... NEVER WRONG 60% OF THE TIME. The other 40% she is right." - Chelsea716
"Tia shall never be questioned tis she is the master of all answers." - Bean2011
"Yes Tia, everything you say inspires me" - zoey

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