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Substrate is too wet?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:43 am
by finleyfoo
I suspect the substrate is too wet. I have Fluker's All Natural Premium Sand Substrate, which I used straight out of the bag. I don't wet the substrate any more than how it came but there is a lot of humidity in the tank (around 89%). Bluey doesn't seem to have had a problem with digging tunnels that I can tell but the substrate feels quite wet to me. Should I try to dry it out a bit? Maybe mixing some dry eco earth or sand into it?

Re: Substrate is too wet?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:17 pm
by Hermiesguardian
finleyfoo wrote:I suspect the substrate is too wet. I have Fluker's All Natural Premium Sand Substrate, which I used straight out of the bag. I don't wet the substrate any more than how it came but there is a lot of humidity in the tank (around 89%). Bluey doesn't seem to have had a problem with digging tunnels that I can tell but the substrate feels quite wet to me. Should I try to dry it out a bit? Maybe mixing some dry eco earth or sand into it?
Does it drip water if you squeeze a handful? If not then it should be fine. As long as it holds its shape. If it does drip you can add some dry playsand or ee. Just dont pack it down.

Re: Substrate is too wet?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:00 pm
by finleyfoo
I will check if it drips. I am a bit squeamish about grabbing it!

Just curious - why not pack it down? Not that I did...

Re: Substrate is too wet?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:27 pm
by Hermiesguardian
finleyfoo wrote:I will check if it drips. I am a bit squeamish about grabbing it!

Just curious - why not pack it down? Not that I did...
If you pack it down it can collapse tunnels or caves and the crabs can suffocate if they're under there.

Re: Substrate is too wet?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:28 pm
by Hermiesguardian
finleyfoo wrote:I will check if it drips. I am a bit squeamish about grabbing it!

Just curious - why not pack it down? Not that I did...
I'm curious. Why is holding the sand squeamish? I'm squeamish about holding a crab. Lol

Re: Substrate is too wet?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:51 pm
by finleyfoo
Got it about the tunnels. I was only planning to do this when Bluey was at the surface.

I am a squeamish person in general about icky things. But holding Bluey does not bother me. Of course I have never been pinched yet. That might change things.

Re: Substrate is too wet?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:45 pm
by GotButterflies
You can certainly add more ee to the mixture. Check this by doing the pencil test, or chopstick test. Stick a pencil or chopstick down the front of your crabitat. If it holds it's shape it's great. If it doesn't, there is an issue. Typically this really only works for when it is too dry though. What if you put on gloves. Would that help? I have OCD, so I understand. Good luck! If your substrate is too wet, you would want to dig your crabs up very carefully.

Re: Substrate is too wet?

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:46 pm
by fandt94
finleyfoo wrote:Got it about the tunnels. I was only planning to do this when Bluey was at the surface.

I am a squeamish person in general about icky things. But holding Bluey does not bother me. Of course I have never been pinched yet. That might change things.
It’s funny you mentioned the pinching thing...I’ve never been pinched either but I literally had a nightmare last night that my crabs were multiplying like gremlins and were out of control....escaping and such and as I scrambled to catch them all to put them back I was being grabbed and pinched by multiple crabs :hlol:

Re: Substrate is too wet?

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:48 pm
by finleyfoo
I will try the pencil test but I am pretty sure that it will be fine as I think there is maybe too much wetness. I have the water pools on some rocks/pebbles and when I change them out, I try to sop up any residual water with paper towels. Bluey seems to be able to tunnel fine as far as I can tell. I will try to squeeze the substrate sometime (with gloves on!) and see how it is and consider mixing in some ee or some dry sand, just to make sure it's ok. Ever since I added substrate to bring the level up closer to 6 inches I have had no issue with humidity and in fact sometimes I think it may be too humid! It hovers around 85-89% and I sometimes have to wipe condensation from the inside of the glass. I have left the lid open for short periods to air it out a bit. Even if I turn off the water bubblers, it does not seem to make a difference.