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Crabitat Showcase: pros & cons. Sharing what I’ve learned.

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:04 pm
by quinnmquinn
In the dream world of designing your ideal crabitat, you often can’t predict how the crabs will take to your version of “ideal”. This takes some time to really realize what is useful to the crabs and what is just taking up space.

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I have had this crabitat set up for around 2 years now with little alteration. I started 6 years ago with 1 crab in a 2.5 gallon from someone who couldn’t care for it (which is now my saltwater pool Image). What you are looking at now is a 50 gallon with 6 crabs. Over that time I have made a few small modifications, and now am ready to give some pros, cons, and take always from features in this tank. Hopefully giving someone going through the design process some helpful food for thought.
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Second level:
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Pros:
-Having the eating area separated from the ground has been easier to keep food out of the substrate and prevent mites.
-The moss hangout on the second floor allows for easy removal of crabs (mean ones particularly) when needed.
-The moss pit includes dry sphagnum moss (notice they don’t like damp), dry leaves (which they eat like crazy), and millet (the kind for birds). The crabs love to nest in here and have a constant snack source that won’t go bad.

Cons:
-It is much harder for small crabs to get up to this level and also out of these dishes. (1.5” deep)
-Middle section initially had nothing and the crabs avoided it at all costs. Adding a shallow water dish here encouraged a post meal bath.
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The pools:
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Pros:
-My crabs do use them. Either basking on the side, half submerged on driftwood, or full on swimming. Every crab has tried it all.
-Using wood submerged in both the salt and fresh water gives a good bridge between, and a good grappling spot for the more hesitant.
-It is so enjoying to watch a crab go down and release the bubbles from their shell.
-Using an air stone or sponge filter increases the crabs use of the pool.
-Add pothos cutting to the freshwater tank to add some green. Crabs also use the roots to grab onto underwater.
-Crabs appear to like older/dirtier water because it’s bacterially cycled like an aquarium. This means less cleaning!

Cons:
-Don’t get discouraged! It takes a few months for the crabs to really get comfortable with these new deep pools. Guessing because they became accustomed to shallow dishes. It’s like watching them relearn how to ride a bike.
-Started with the grate things that are very well regarded. Only one crab was ever brave enough to use it. It took up so much of the space in the water. I opted for fake plastic plants in sheets. (Aquarium plants used for fry rearing). I just used wood/objects to pin them to the side. This gave way more space in the water and the crabs saw it as more familiar. More crabs used after the switch. Added wood to add an extra route out.

****Deep water pools seem to be the new trend in the crabbing world, and for good reason. It gets closer to the crabs natural environment. It allows the crabs to fully submerge and fill their shells with water. >>That being said there needs to be some new ideas as for making a cheap and easy solution for the crabs to get in and out of the pools, regardless of size. The shape of a painters tray would be ideal, but that takes up lots of space and isn’t as deep. The fake plants work, the grates work, but both have their flaws. Still scared a crab might drown.
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Hiding places and climbs:
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Pros:
-The wood gives a very natural aesthetic to the tank, provides hiding places, and a way to get to the second floor.
-Underneath the second level is one of the crabs favorite dark spaces.
-Cork-board (found in reptile section) gives a great climbing surface for very little floor space. Used magnets to secure to tank. Also have just wedged behind things.
-Flowerpots add a simple hide with many sizes.

Cons:
-This layout does not have enough hiding places. The crabs often shy away to the corner.
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50 gallon tank:
Pros:
-36x18x19 gives a bigger foot print than the comparable 55 gallons.
-Good to have the bigger foot print when trying to include in ground pools.
-Good enough width to give my larger crabs comfortable roaming room.
-Substrate is 8.5 inches deep. In my experience this has been plenty deep enough for even my largest crab.
-This was a tipping point in tank sizes. After slowly leveling up from a 2.5g; this felt like the first tank I could try whatever I wanted.

Cons
-The height above sub for the tank is about 10-12 inches. For my large crabs this isn’t and ideal amount of vertical space. (Opt for the 55 for more climbing room).
-Glass tops were extremely expensive for this size. Went with a screen top which is harder to keep proper humidity, but not impossible. (On the plus side this adds extra climbing room for the crabs)

*When buying a new tank I always hold out for the $1 a gallon sale at Petco. The largest size you can get is a 55. The normal price is 3x that.
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Upcoming changes:
-Adding more cholla wood for climbing. Will also be adding cholla wood to pools to see if it’s easier for the crabs.
-Adding another hide that is fully dark (more hut like)
-More cork board in the background to make another route from side to side of the tank.
-In the distant future: taller tank or tank add on for more vertical room.

Re: Crabitat Showcase: pros & cons. Sharing what I’ve learned.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:08 pm
by Alaina
Where were you the other day lol. I'm remaking a new home .fingers crossed they like it or move things to let me know what the don't lol. I have a question, or two..do you worry about them falling off levels? I made more levels and I worry prob. Silly but I do..also is the wood ok getting wet? I've been so happy not to get mold or anything in their tank(the one they are in until I move them tommo) I was thinking about using wood but I worry it would get mold. I guess it doesn't get mold in the humidity amd when I spray now. Just wondering. I want to post pics but incant fig out how the heck to do it. I've read the instructions it can't fig it out using a cell phone. Maybe I should try on the laptop. Anyway...your tank is beautiful and thank you for the post. I know it's not always easy to find good details about what works esp different kinds of ideas with pro/cons. It's a great take away!

Re: Crabitat Showcase: pros & cons. Sharing what I’ve learned.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:56 pm
by curlysister
Alaina wrote:
Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:08 pm
Where were you the other day lol. I'm remaking a new home .fingers crossed they like it or move things to let me know what the don't lol. I have a question, or two..do you worry about them falling off levels? I made more levels and I worry prob. Silly but I do..also is the wood ok getting wet? I've been so happy not to get mold or anything in their tank(the one they are in until I move them tommo) I was thinking about using wood but I worry it would get mold. I guess it doesn't get mold in the humidity amd when I spray now. Just wondering. I want to post pics but incant fig out how the heck to do it. I've read the instructions it can't fig it out using a cell phone. Maybe I should try on the laptop. Anyway...your tank is beautiful and thank you for the post. I know it's not always easy to find good details about what works esp different kinds of ideas with pro/cons. It's a great take away!
If you have a cell phone, the easiest way to access the forum and post pics is probably with the Tapatalk App.

Re: Crabitat Showcase: pros & cons. Sharing what I’ve learned.

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:54 pm
by quinnmquinn
Alaina wrote:Where were you the other day lol. I'm remaking a new home .fingers crossed they like it or move things to let me know what the don't lol. I have a question, or two..do you worry about them falling off levels? I made more levels and I worry prob. Silly but I do..also is the wood ok getting wet? I've been so happy not to get mold or anything in their tank(the one they are in until I move them tommo) I was thinking about using wood but I worry it would get mold. I guess it doesn't get mold in the humidity amd when I spray now. Just wondering. I want to post pics but incant fig out how the heck to do it. I've read the instructions it can't fig it out using a cell phone. Maybe I should try on the laptop. Anyway...your tank is beautiful and thank you for the post. I know it's not always easy to find good details about what works esp different kinds of ideas with pro/cons. It's a great take away!
They do fall off the level sometimes actually. Was concerned about this at first Then I figured it's the same drop as they make from other things they fall of anyway. Doesn't happen very often either. They seem to know there is a ledge. The problem comes when they're trying to come down from the dishes and getting over the ledge.

As for the wood, I haven't had any mold build up after getting the screen lid. On the downside this lid is very hard to keep moisture in. Now I have a blanket on top that I move over varying amounts to control the humidity. This is a pretty flexible way to change levels in the tank, but not very pretty to the eye. Recently I found dousing the wood when misting increases humidity for longer. I did find mold in the past once at the soil line; this was while using 100% coco substrate. I just boiled the wood to get rid of the mold.

Re: Crabitat Showcase: pros & cons. Sharing what I’ve learned.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:16 am
by Alaina
Thank you curlyS. I was literally just scrolling to find where I saw you say how to post pics and you reposted it here for me. Thank you. That makes me feel better Q. I tried to keep possible falls in mind when making levels. I actually dropped shells off that were the kind I felt to flimsy for my big guy. I fig. If it broke not a good idea or hight. I think I'm being to worried because it's new. I use to do a 3 to 1 mix but I read on here 5 to 1 is best. I put it in the tank ans I think that's going to make a huge difference in any worry about mold. I Def. Want to add another level with another tank ontop for another level. I'm going to wait a bit though. I just adopted a new crab and I want to put them all in the new tank at the same time. I've let it sit for a few days to get the numbers right. You really helped me E. I'm going to try to learn pics to get feedback in the tank

Re: Crabitat Showcase: pros & cons. Sharing what I’ve learned.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:27 am
by Alaina
Alaina wrote:Thank you curlyS. I was literally just scrolling to find where I saw you say how to post pics and you reposted it here for me. Thank you. That makes me feel better Q. I tried to keep possible falls in mind when making levels. I actually dropped shells off that were the kind I felt to flimsy for my big guy. I fig. If it broke not a good idea or hight. I think I'm being to worried because it's new. I use to do a 3 to 1 mix but I read on here 5 to 1 is best. I put it in the tank ans I think that's going to make a huge difference in any worry about mold. I Def. Want to add another level with another tank ontop for another level. I'm going to wait a bit though. I just adopted a new crab and I want to put them all in the new tank at the same time. I've let it sit for a few days to get the numbers right. You really helped me E. I'm going to try to learn pics to get feedback in the tank
Oh my gosh curlyG you rock!!! I love this app. I need take good pics now lol. I only posted this to see if it works..fingers crossed!ImageImage

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