Disaster! Crab smells and won't move, other crab won't burry, and crab's shell is too small.
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Disaster! Crab smells and won't move, other crab won't burry, and crab's shell is too small.
Hi, I'm having multiple issues with my hermit crabs. Here are the answers to the emergency form:
- I use 5-6 inches of coconut fiber for the substrate.
- Temperature and Humidity gauges are located towards the top of the tank. Humidity usually reads 70-75 and Temperature is usually 70. I don't use a heat source.
- They have fresh and salt water, the freshwater is from my reverse osmosis sink. The saltwater is usually some tap water and a pinch of marine salt (or whatever the salt for crabs from the pet store is called) but in the past few days I've been using the bottled Thrive PetSmart brand.
- I feed spinach, Thrive hermit crab food medley, and sometimes blueberry. I put a little bit of hermit crab calcium supplement in the dish. I change it every other day if there is no fresh food and every day if there is.
- I've had one crab for 2 1/2 years and one crab for about a year. One is a definitely purple pincher and one is (I'm pretty sure) a purple pincher.
- I'm not sure when they last molted, but since it's been 2 years and they've changed shells aren't dead they must have at some point.
- They live in a 20-gallon glass tank with a metal mesh lid.
- There are 2 crabs, one is 1 inch (ish) and one is a little less than 3 inches.
- There have not been any fumes or chemicals near the tank recently.
- Usually, I keep 3-4 extra shells in the tank, 2 big-ish ones, and 2 smaller ones.
- In the past year or so it's only been cleaned twice but I cleaned it last month and again a few days ago. Before last year I'd clean it every few months. I don't use any sponges and I've added a few shells to my crabitat recently.
In the past 6 months they haven't been taken care of well. My sister wanted to take care of them so I let her, and though I tried to educate her on how to take proper care of them, I don't think she actually did. I wasn't checking up on them as much as I should of (my fault) but now I'm really trying to take better care of them.
I have 2 crabs, one small purple pincher named Bear, and one medium purple pincher (I think) named Bomb. Bomb won't come out of her shell, at all. A week ago she came out once or twice but now she won't at all. Just stays in the same place all day and all night. She smells like fish but is definitely not dead, because if you pick her up she'll pull her legs farther into the shell. But doesn't move at any other time.
Secondly, Bear won't burry. Before they went into my sister's care, all 3 crabs were almost always buried. They came up every night to eat and drink and be active but went under every morning. One crab, unfortunately, died recently (and I cleaned the entire tank) but the other 2 will not burry. Bear stays active all day, walking around and climbing, and of course, Bomb won't move.
Thirdly, I'm worried about Bear's shell. Bear has changed shells 6 times or so in the past few days. They keep rotating from 3 different shells, so I can tell they are not shells. I've gone to every pet store around and purchased shells that I think will be too small, and I found 2 painted (ugh) shells that might be the right size. It's my only choice for shells. I ordered some online but they wont come for 2 weeks.
And finally, I think Bear might have eggs. Bear was a boy when I first got them and checked, but now they have gonophores (I think that's what it's called). Also, I could tell that Bear was about to change shells, so I set up my camera. In the video, I was shocked to realize it looks like they have eggs on their abdomen! I looked up a picture of a crab with eggs and it looked pretty much identical. I might just be really overreacting but the hermit crab who unfortunately died was a boy, so it could be possible (my other alive hermit crab is a girl).
Anyway, sorry for this really long message. I'm quite worried about my crabs, and if anyone has any suggestions on what to do for any of these problems, it would be so appreciated.
Update 1/27: All is good now, I changed a few things in my crabitat and things have gone quite well
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- I use 5-6 inches of coconut fiber for the substrate.
- Temperature and Humidity gauges are located towards the top of the tank. Humidity usually reads 70-75 and Temperature is usually 70. I don't use a heat source.
- They have fresh and salt water, the freshwater is from my reverse osmosis sink. The saltwater is usually some tap water and a pinch of marine salt (or whatever the salt for crabs from the pet store is called) but in the past few days I've been using the bottled Thrive PetSmart brand.
- I feed spinach, Thrive hermit crab food medley, and sometimes blueberry. I put a little bit of hermit crab calcium supplement in the dish. I change it every other day if there is no fresh food and every day if there is.
- I've had one crab for 2 1/2 years and one crab for about a year. One is a definitely purple pincher and one is (I'm pretty sure) a purple pincher.
- I'm not sure when they last molted, but since it's been 2 years and they've changed shells aren't dead they must have at some point.
- They live in a 20-gallon glass tank with a metal mesh lid.
- There are 2 crabs, one is 1 inch (ish) and one is a little less than 3 inches.
- There have not been any fumes or chemicals near the tank recently.
- Usually, I keep 3-4 extra shells in the tank, 2 big-ish ones, and 2 smaller ones.
- In the past year or so it's only been cleaned twice but I cleaned it last month and again a few days ago. Before last year I'd clean it every few months. I don't use any sponges and I've added a few shells to my crabitat recently.
In the past 6 months they haven't been taken care of well. My sister wanted to take care of them so I let her, and though I tried to educate her on how to take proper care of them, I don't think she actually did. I wasn't checking up on them as much as I should of (my fault) but now I'm really trying to take better care of them.
I have 2 crabs, one small purple pincher named Bear, and one medium purple pincher (I think) named Bomb. Bomb won't come out of her shell, at all. A week ago she came out once or twice but now she won't at all. Just stays in the same place all day and all night. She smells like fish but is definitely not dead, because if you pick her up she'll pull her legs farther into the shell. But doesn't move at any other time.
Secondly, Bear won't burry. Before they went into my sister's care, all 3 crabs were almost always buried. They came up every night to eat and drink and be active but went under every morning. One crab, unfortunately, died recently (and I cleaned the entire tank) but the other 2 will not burry. Bear stays active all day, walking around and climbing, and of course, Bomb won't move.
Thirdly, I'm worried about Bear's shell. Bear has changed shells 6 times or so in the past few days. They keep rotating from 3 different shells, so I can tell they are not shells. I've gone to every pet store around and purchased shells that I think will be too small, and I found 2 painted (ugh) shells that might be the right size. It's my only choice for shells. I ordered some online but they wont come for 2 weeks.
And finally, I think Bear might have eggs. Bear was a boy when I first got them and checked, but now they have gonophores (I think that's what it's called). Also, I could tell that Bear was about to change shells, so I set up my camera. In the video, I was shocked to realize it looks like they have eggs on their abdomen! I looked up a picture of a crab with eggs and it looked pretty much identical. I might just be really overreacting but the hermit crab who unfortunately died was a boy, so it could be possible (my other alive hermit crab is a girl).
Anyway, sorry for this really long message. I'm quite worried about my crabs, and if anyone has any suggestions on what to do for any of these problems, it would be so appreciated.
Update 1/27: All is good now, I changed a few things in my crabitat and things have gone quite well
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Re: Disaster! Crab smells and won't move, other crab won't burry, crab's shell is too small, and one crab might have egg
- I use 5-6 inches of coconut fiber for the substrate.
Curly - Substrate should be at least three times as deep as your largest crab - if your largest is almost 3 inches, your substrate should be at least 9 inches deep. It should be moistened with dechlorinated water so it holds it's shape for tunnels and caves.
- Temperature and Humidity gauges are located towards the top of the tank. Humidity usually reads 70-75 and Temperature is usually 70. I don't use a heat source.
Curly - 70 degrees is toward the lower limit for PPs. They will be more active if the temp is closer to 80. Consider getting a heat source; with your humidity also being toward the lower limit, I would recommend a UTH mounted on the back of the tank. There are ways to boost the humidity, including covering most of your mesh lid with something as simple as plastic wrap. Crabs have modified gills, and need the high humidity in order to breathe. There is a care sheet that addresses humidity.
- They have fresh and salt water, the freshwater is from my reverse osmosis sink. The saltwater is usually some tap water and a pinch of marine salt (or whatever the salt for crabs from the pet store is called) but in the past few days I've been using the bottled Thrive PetSmart brand.
Curly - Fresh water should be tap water treated with a dechlorinator (using RO water does not provide ground minerals). Then for the salt water, you will need to measure the appropriate amount of marine salt and add it to the dechlorinated water - you need to measure so it's the correct concentration. That bottled water does not contain all the minerals that crabs need for long term health.
- I feed spinach, Thrive hermit crab food medley, and sometimes blueberry. I put a little bit of hermit crab calcium supplement in the dish. I change it every other day if there is no fresh food and every day if there is.
Curly - Crabs need a varied diet, which includes calcium and protein daily. Be sure to check out the 'nutrition' care sheet for info about good foods to feed.
- I've had one crab for 2 1/2 years and one crab for about a year. One is a definitely purple pincher and one is (I'm pretty sure) a purple pincher.
- I'm not sure when they last molted, but since it's been 2 years and they've changed shells aren't dead they must have at some point.
- They live in a 20-gallon glass tank with a metal mesh lid.
Curly - You will need to cover the lid to hold in heat and humidity.
- There are 2 crabs, one is 1 inch (ish) and one is a little less than 3 inches.
- There have not been any fumes or chemicals near the tank recently.
- Usually, I keep 3-4 extra shells in the tank, 2 big-ish ones, and 2 smaller ones.
Curly - HCA recommends 3 to 5 extra shells per crab. Be sure to check the 'shells' care sheet to ensure you are offering appropriate types of shells.
- In the past year or so it's only been cleaned twice but I cleaned it last month and again a few days ago. Before last year I'd clean it every few months. I don't use any sponges and I've added a few shells to my crabitat recently.
Curly - There isn't really a need to do a complete substrate change that often, unless there is a problem like a bacterial bloom or flood.
In the past 6 months they haven't been taken care of well. My sister wanted to take care of them so I let her, and though I tried to educate her on how to take proper care of them, I don't think she actually did. I wasn't checking up on them as much as I should of (my fault) but now I'm really trying to take better care of them.
I have 2 crabs, one small purple pincher named Bear, and one medium purple pincher (I think) named Bomb. Bomb won't come out of her shell, at all. A week ago she came out once or twice but now she won't at all. Just stays in the same place all day and all night. She smells like fish but is definitely not dead, because if you pick her up she'll pull her legs farther into the shell. But doesn't move at any other time.
Secondly, Bear won't burry. Before they went into my sister's care, all 3 crabs were almost always buried. They came up every night to eat and drink and be active but went under every morning. One crab, unfortunately, died recently (and I cleaned the entire tank) but the other 2 will not burry. Bear stays active all day, walking around and climbing, and of course, Bomb won't move.
Curly - Crabs will not be as active at the lower temps that you have. And crabs may or may not bury. Mine often stay top side for months at a time. But you do have a number of things that need to be improved, in order to provide the highest chance of survival.
Thirdly, I'm worried about Bear's shell. Bear has changed shells 6 times or so in the past few days. They keep rotating from 3 different shells, so I can tell they are not shells. I've gone to every pet store around and purchased shells that I think will be too small, and I found 2 painted (ugh) shells that might be the right size. It's my only choice for shells. I ordered some online but they wont come for 2 weeks.
Curly - Read through the care sheet about shells, and add more of the correct type.
And finally, I think Bear might have eggs. Bear was a boy when I first got them and checked, but now they have gonophores (I think that's what it's called). Also, I could tell that Bear was about to change shells, so I set up my camera. In the video, I was shocked to realize it looks like they have eggs on their abdomen! I looked up a picture of a crab with eggs and it looked pretty much identical. I might just be really overreacting but the hermit crab who unfortunately died was a boy, so it could be possible (my other alive hermit crab is a girl).
Curly - Crabs will often have eggs, they will discard them and they will not survive, and may be eaten. It is extremely difficult to raise eggs to get crabs to land.
Anyway, sorry for this really long message. I'm quite worried about my crabs, and if anyone has any suggestions on what to do for any of these problems, it would be so appreciated.
Curly - Substrate should be at least three times as deep as your largest crab - if your largest is almost 3 inches, your substrate should be at least 9 inches deep. It should be moistened with dechlorinated water so it holds it's shape for tunnels and caves.
- Temperature and Humidity gauges are located towards the top of the tank. Humidity usually reads 70-75 and Temperature is usually 70. I don't use a heat source.
Curly - 70 degrees is toward the lower limit for PPs. They will be more active if the temp is closer to 80. Consider getting a heat source; with your humidity also being toward the lower limit, I would recommend a UTH mounted on the back of the tank. There are ways to boost the humidity, including covering most of your mesh lid with something as simple as plastic wrap. Crabs have modified gills, and need the high humidity in order to breathe. There is a care sheet that addresses humidity.
- They have fresh and salt water, the freshwater is from my reverse osmosis sink. The saltwater is usually some tap water and a pinch of marine salt (or whatever the salt for crabs from the pet store is called) but in the past few days I've been using the bottled Thrive PetSmart brand.
Curly - Fresh water should be tap water treated with a dechlorinator (using RO water does not provide ground minerals). Then for the salt water, you will need to measure the appropriate amount of marine salt and add it to the dechlorinated water - you need to measure so it's the correct concentration. That bottled water does not contain all the minerals that crabs need for long term health.
- I feed spinach, Thrive hermit crab food medley, and sometimes blueberry. I put a little bit of hermit crab calcium supplement in the dish. I change it every other day if there is no fresh food and every day if there is.
Curly - Crabs need a varied diet, which includes calcium and protein daily. Be sure to check out the 'nutrition' care sheet for info about good foods to feed.
- I've had one crab for 2 1/2 years and one crab for about a year. One is a definitely purple pincher and one is (I'm pretty sure) a purple pincher.
- I'm not sure when they last molted, but since it's been 2 years and they've changed shells aren't dead they must have at some point.
- They live in a 20-gallon glass tank with a metal mesh lid.
Curly - You will need to cover the lid to hold in heat and humidity.
- There are 2 crabs, one is 1 inch (ish) and one is a little less than 3 inches.
- There have not been any fumes or chemicals near the tank recently.
- Usually, I keep 3-4 extra shells in the tank, 2 big-ish ones, and 2 smaller ones.
Curly - HCA recommends 3 to 5 extra shells per crab. Be sure to check the 'shells' care sheet to ensure you are offering appropriate types of shells.
- In the past year or so it's only been cleaned twice but I cleaned it last month and again a few days ago. Before last year I'd clean it every few months. I don't use any sponges and I've added a few shells to my crabitat recently.
Curly - There isn't really a need to do a complete substrate change that often, unless there is a problem like a bacterial bloom or flood.
In the past 6 months they haven't been taken care of well. My sister wanted to take care of them so I let her, and though I tried to educate her on how to take proper care of them, I don't think she actually did. I wasn't checking up on them as much as I should of (my fault) but now I'm really trying to take better care of them.
I have 2 crabs, one small purple pincher named Bear, and one medium purple pincher (I think) named Bomb. Bomb won't come out of her shell, at all. A week ago she came out once or twice but now she won't at all. Just stays in the same place all day and all night. She smells like fish but is definitely not dead, because if you pick her up she'll pull her legs farther into the shell. But doesn't move at any other time.
Secondly, Bear won't burry. Before they went into my sister's care, all 3 crabs were almost always buried. They came up every night to eat and drink and be active but went under every morning. One crab, unfortunately, died recently (and I cleaned the entire tank) but the other 2 will not burry. Bear stays active all day, walking around and climbing, and of course, Bomb won't move.
Curly - Crabs will not be as active at the lower temps that you have. And crabs may or may not bury. Mine often stay top side for months at a time. But you do have a number of things that need to be improved, in order to provide the highest chance of survival.
Thirdly, I'm worried about Bear's shell. Bear has changed shells 6 times or so in the past few days. They keep rotating from 3 different shells, so I can tell they are not shells. I've gone to every pet store around and purchased shells that I think will be too small, and I found 2 painted (ugh) shells that might be the right size. It's my only choice for shells. I ordered some online but they wont come for 2 weeks.
Curly - Read through the care sheet about shells, and add more of the correct type.
And finally, I think Bear might have eggs. Bear was a boy when I first got them and checked, but now they have gonophores (I think that's what it's called). Also, I could tell that Bear was about to change shells, so I set up my camera. In the video, I was shocked to realize it looks like they have eggs on their abdomen! I looked up a picture of a crab with eggs and it looked pretty much identical. I might just be really overreacting but the hermit crab who unfortunately died was a boy, so it could be possible (my other alive hermit crab is a girl).
Curly - Crabs will often have eggs, they will discard them and they will not survive, and may be eaten. It is extremely difficult to raise eggs to get crabs to land.
Anyway, sorry for this really long message. I'm quite worried about my crabs, and if anyone has any suggestions on what to do for any of these problems, it would be so appreciated.
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Re: Disaster! Crab smells and won't move, other crab won't burry, crab's shell is too small, and one crab might have egg
Thank you so much for your help. I've done a lot of research and i'm trying to improve. Thanks for your advice. In regards to the shells, I got more of the appropriate type but they won't come for 2 weeks. My crab clearly needs a shell but there are no stores near me that sell good ones. Will my crab be okay?
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Re: Disaster! Crab smells and won't move, other crab won't burry, crab's shell is too small, and one crab might have egg
Have you checked local Hobby stores for shells? it may seem strange, but many of them sell seashells for crafts that can be used as hermit crab shells as well.. as long as they are not painted, shellacked or otherwise coated and have no holes
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Re: Disaster! Crab smells and won't move, other crab won't burry, crab's shell is too small, and one crab might have egg
I checked my local Michaels top to bottom, nothing. I've gone to 8 pet stores in my area and I've bought a few shells but my crab doesn't like them (they were pretty small, so that was expected). I'm worried because since I last posted, my crab has changed shells another 2 times.
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Re: Disaster! Crab smells and won't move, other crab won't burry, crab's shell is too small, and one crab might have egg
Do you know what size opening you need? I have a handful of extra smaller shells I could ship out asap if any of them would fit.
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Re: Disaster! Crab smells and won't move, other crab won't burry, crab's shell is too small, and one crab might have egg
Wow, that's so nice of you to offer. I was finally able to find suitable shells (I hope) on Amazon, which is weird because I couldn't find any a few days ago. Paid a few extra bucks for overnight shipping. But thank you so much for even offering!
In regards to the other stuff: I went to the pet store and found a UTH and put it on the back, the temperature is now 80. Crazy how well that worked!
I put some placemats on the top and bought some moss. Humidity is now 95! (Can humidity be too high? lol)
I also added 3 more inches of substrate and I'm going to switch my lizard's tank (30 gallons) with the crabs so they have more room and I can add more substrate.
My crab who wasn't moving finally moved! I was looking at the tank and she just got up and started walking around for the first time in a week. She also doesn't smell like fish anymore. Maybe she just needed some rest haha.
It seems most of my problems have been magically solved in a crazy twist of events! Thank you so much for all your help. Hopefully, they will like the new shells
In regards to the other stuff: I went to the pet store and found a UTH and put it on the back, the temperature is now 80. Crazy how well that worked!
I put some placemats on the top and bought some moss. Humidity is now 95! (Can humidity be too high? lol)
I also added 3 more inches of substrate and I'm going to switch my lizard's tank (30 gallons) with the crabs so they have more room and I can add more substrate.
My crab who wasn't moving finally moved! I was looking at the tank and she just got up and started walking around for the first time in a week. She also doesn't smell like fish anymore. Maybe she just needed some rest haha.
It seems most of my problems have been magically solved in a crazy twist of events! Thank you so much for all your help. Hopefully, they will like the new shells
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Re: Disaster! Crab smells and won't move, other crab won't burry, crab's shell is too small, and one crab might have egg
Glad things are looking up for ya!bearbombsquidward wrote:Wow, that's so nice of you to offer. I was finally able to find suitable shells (I hope) on Amazon, which is weird because I couldn't find any a few days ago. Paid a few extra bucks for overnight shipping. But thank you so much for even offering!
In regards to the other stuff: I went to the pet store and found a UTH and put it on the back, the temperature is now 80. Crazy how well that worked!
I put some placemats on the top and bought some moss. Humidity is now 95! (Can humidity be too high? lol)
I also added 3 more inches of substrate and I'm going to switch my lizard's tank (30 gallons) with the crabs so they have more room and I can add more substrate.
My crab who wasn't moving finally moved! I was looking at the tank and she just got up and started walking around for the first time in a week. She also doesn't smell like fish anymore. Maybe she just needed some rest haha.
It seems most of my problems have been magically solved in a crazy twist of events! Thank you so much for all your help. Hopefully, they will like the new shells
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