Help ! Molting ?

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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by GotButterflies » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:40 pm

Hello! I just wanted to add my two cents in. I'm sorry I haven't been on my computer lately, so I missed this post. I'm glad that your little guy is doing great and that you know in the future to not dig up your little guys. There are few things that I noticed in your emergency template that needed to be addressed. I answered with a GB for GotButterflies :butterfly::
Hermiearth wrote:
Jennycat wrote:1. What kind of substrate is used in your tank and how deep is it? Coconut fiber

H: How deep?

GB: Your substrate needs to be at the minimum of 6" or 3 times the size of your largest crab. (Whichever is deeper). It also needs to be sandcastle consistency. You would moisten it with dechlorinated marine salt water.


2. Do you have gauges in the tank to measure temperature and humidity? If so, where are they located and what temperature and humidity do they usually read? 80 and 80

H: I would calibrate your hydrometer to be safe. 80% is the min.

GB: Are you using digital or analog? I agree with Hermie that you need to calibrate. Here is the guide:http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 26&t=92540
I also agree that 80/80 is the minimum. Surviving and thriving are two different things :) Humidity is how the hermit crabs breathe due to their modified gills :)

3. Is a heat source used in the tank? If so, what? Small heater attached to side and red bulb

H: Heat lamps zap humidity. You would be safer buying a heat mat and putting it over the sub on the back of tank.

GB: www.reptilebasics.com or www.beanfarm.com have great uth's.

4. What types of water are available (fresh or salt) and how is the water treated (what brands of dechlorinator or salt mix and what ratio is used to mix it)? Yes we use both water types

H: What declaring actor and salt mix brands do you use?

GB: Very important that you are using a dechlorinator. Chlorine and chloramine are deadly to the crabs. It needs to be removed before rinsing anything off or being put into the crabs tank. Very important that you are using marine salt water like Instant Ocean. Here is a link on what I am talking about: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 25&t=92553

5. What kinds of food do you feed and how often is it replaced? Commercial foods and an assortment of fresh foods daily . Apples , hibiscus , cutle bone, carrots

H: Toss the commercial food, it's actually awful for the crabs. You should definitely provide more proteins like dead insects and meats.

GB: A lot of products marketed for hermit crabs are unfortunately not safe. Here is a list for you: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 25&t=92555
Safe food list: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 25&t=92557
Unsafe food list: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 25&t=92556
Food pyramid: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 25&t=92554

6. How long have you had the crab and what species is it, if known? 4 weeks purple claw

7. Has your crab molted, and how long ago did it happen? I think maybe today

8. What type of housing are the crabs kept in, what size is it and what kind of lid is on the housing? 10gal tank mesh lid with plastic over half for humidity

H: A glass tank would be better for humidity.

GB: I know that you have since upgraded your tank :) I recommend 1 crab per 5 gallons.

9. How many crabs are in the tank and about how large are they? There are currently 3 2 fairly large and one smaller

H: Your a bit overcrowded. I recommend upgrading to minimize aggression between crabs.

10. How many extra shells are usually kept in the tank, if any? 8

H: 3 extra per crab. Check the shell guide to make sure you have the proper shellsImage

GB: The HCA recommends 3-5 shells per crab. I recommend more. You can never have enough! :) There are incorrect shells to buy. Here is the shell guide: http://hermitcrabassociation.com/phpBB/ ... 24&t=92552

11. Have there been any fumes or chemicals near the crabitat recently? No

12. How often do you clean the tank and how? I haven't yet

H: Just spot clean as needed.

GB: You don't need to do anything but pick up poo, food that has spilled and change the water. :)

13. Are sponges used in the water dish? If so, how are they cleaned? Yes -boil in water every other day

H: Sponges are not actually necessary. Make sure you bowls are deep enough for your crabs to fully submerge but make sure you have a way out for the smaller crab.

GB: Agreed. Sponges are an old practice. If they are natural sponges, you can dry them and place them in the tank for the crabs to munch on. They really harbor too much bacteria when left in the water.

14. Has anything new been added to your crabitat recently? No

15. Is there any other information you would like to share that might be helpful (anything that is regularly part of your crab care, playtime, bathing, etc.)? I dig the crabs up yesterday to check on them . The one then sat under a branch that is in the middle of the tank (still
Visible ) I moved him tonight and hie body (or maybe just his exoskeleton ) fell out . I believe I might have saw him still inside but didn't want to bother him too much . I sat him back where I found him and left the exoskeleton beside him .

H: Never ever dig up a crab! They were probably de-stressing after the long journey to the pet store.

GB: Crabs dig for several reasons. They dig for fun, to cool off, to destress, to molt, etc. :)

16. Please describe the emergency situation in detail. The info noted above . And in first post .
H: You need to ISO the crab. Put a 2 liter soda bottle cut in half over him with the cap off to regulate air exchange. Offer foods high in calcium and protein.


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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by Jennycat » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:38 am

Thank you :).
"Spike" had ate all his exo except his large claw . I think I had read another post that they don't ? . So now leave him 4 days or until
He is actively moving about ?


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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by KayedeeLove<3 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:09 am

Until he's actively moving about. They grow through a period after eating exo that they just sit and recover. After that you'll notice he's up moving around allot. That's when it's safe!
Everything sounds like it's going well!

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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by Jennycat » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:32 am

Excellent ! Thank you
In his little ISO there wasn't room for water . Will he be ok ?


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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by KayedeeLove<3 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:48 am

I'd provide something even if it's just a small cap

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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by Jennycat » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:10 am

Ok :). So it would be ok to move the bottle ? I just don't want to stress the poor guy anymore


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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by daws409 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:54 am

Jennycat wrote:Ok :). So it would be ok to move the bottle ? I just don't want to stress the poor guy anymore


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Do you have a kk on hand?? I would remove the bottle and place a cap of fresh and a cap of salt water. Also provide him with raw organic honey, calcium, and protein (shrimp, krill, or grasshoppers).... Since you would have to remove the bottle to provide these, I would place this stuff, a little substrate, and the crabby in a KK within the tank to maintain heat/humidity. In this case a kk would work better than a soda bottle that way you don't have to remove bottle ever time you need to replace something.

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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by Jennycat » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:29 pm

Thank you :). I moved him to a container inside the tank . He has eaten almost all the exo including the large claw . He has salt water , honey, cuttlebone , peanut butter , and dried bloodworms . When switching him over I got a sneak peek . His colour is coming in nicely already . Image


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Post by GotButterflies » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:49 pm

Jennycat wrote:Thank you :). I moved him to a container inside the tank . He has eaten almost all the exo including the large claw . He has salt water , honey, cuttlebone , peanut butter , and dried bloodworms . When switching him over I got a sneak peek . His colour is coming in nicely already . Image


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Does that container and the lid have holes? You need sufficient air / heat exchange. Glad to hear he is doing well! He needs freshwater & marine saltwater. You can use water bottle caps ~ they are a little smaller than shells. I use shells for my crabs too Image


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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by Jennycat » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:42 pm

Yes it does . I snapped a pic before I put the lid on .


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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by Jennycat » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:35 pm

So the little bugger escaped ISO a couple of days ago and has been hanging by his favourite log. He has still been eating and I can see his little feet sticking out on and off :). He is close to my heat matt (which is on the side of the tank). I worry if he stays too long will he get to dry as he's not moving a lot ...thoughts ?

Man I worry about these things too much lol .


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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by Hermiearth » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:51 pm

Sounds good! If he escaped he is good to go. Don't worry about him going to the heat mat, as long as he can get away from it if he wants to. They are so good at making us worry


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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by GotButterflies » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:42 pm

That is hilarious! I guess he's telling you he's better...
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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by Jennycat » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:29 pm

I woke up this morning and he left his shell and found one of the spare ones and was heading into our moss pot ! I think I might have one on there (possibly molting ). I guess we wait and see what happens .


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Re: Help ! Molting ?

Post by Hermiearth » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:32 pm

Wait is there one molting In your moss pit? You will have to keep the other crabs out or they could eat him.


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