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Emergency

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:33 am
by Pinkypants
Since you've come to the emergency forum, we know you want a fast answer to your question. In order for us to figure out the problem as quickly as possible, we ask that you answer the following questions as best you can. Some of them may seem odd, but they're all designed to give us the information we need to give you a good solution for your problem. The things in the [ brackets ] are there to make this post easier to read once submitted. Thanks!


1. What kind of substrate is used in your tank and how deep is it?
It's the same I've used for years, the brick that I add water too but I can't think of the brand name right now. About 4 inches deep.

2. Do you have gauges in the tank to measure temperature and humidity? If so, where are they located and what temperature and humidity do they usually read? yes, the gauges are located in the middle of the tank about 3/4 towards the top. I keep the temperature at about 75 and the humidity at about 85. He's been happy with that for the 5 years that I've had him.


3. Is a heat source used in the tank? If so, what?
I use a heat lamp, always have, with a timer.

4. What types of water are available (fresh or salt) and how is the water treated (what brands of dechlorinator or salt mix and what ratio is used to mix it)?
He's always had fresh and salt water. I use a kit made by Zoo Med, always have, never had a problem.

5. What kinds of food do you feed and how often is it replaced?

His basic food is Jurassic diet. Pellets and coconut chips and a little fruit mix with an occasional treat of lettuce or carrot.

6. How long have you had the crab and what species is it, if known?
I have had him for almost 5 years and do not know the species.

7. Has your crab molted, and how long ago did it happen?
He has molted a few times over the years. This time he is coming out of his second molt in only a 3-month period. This time he has not finished eating his exoskeleton and he keeps putting himself on his side, with his legs slightly sticking out of his shell. I have never seen him do this before and I can tell that he's very weak. I give him peace and quiet and not too much light but he's getting worse by the day and I don't know if I can help him because I know he should be left alone for the most part.

8. What type of housing are the crabs kept in, what size is it and what kind of lid is on the housing?
He is in an absolutely perfect 25 gallon tank and the lid is one that I can open from the top in order to care for him.

9. How many crabs are in the tank and about how large are they?
He is alone because whenever I try to give him a friend he would basically try to maul it. I know most of them like friends but he seems to be happier on his own.

10. How many extra shells are usually kept in the tank, if any?
He's got three or four extra shells and have has changed them a few times over the years.

11. Have there been any fumes or chemicals near the crabitat recently?
Absolutely no fumes or chemicals near the tank.

12. How often do you clean the tank and how?
The cleanings vary, when needed, every few months. I dump the whole thing and start over.
13. Are sponges used in the water dish? If so, how are they cleaned?
No sponges in water dish.


14. Has anything new been added to your crabitat recently?
Nothing new has been added. He loves his toys and his hiding places.

15. Is there any other information you would like to share that might be helpful (anything that is regularly part of your crab care, playtime, bathing, etc.)?


16. Please describe the emergency situation in detail.
This mulch was only a few weeks after the last one and he's been down almost a month. It seemed like a normal molt until I peeked in and saw him on his side. I tilted him just slightly toward being right side up but two days later I find him on his side again with his legs slightly sticking out and I can see that he has not finished eating the exoskeleton and is extremely weak, totally out of character. Any way I can help without stressing him out ???! 😢

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HELP PLEASE

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:17 am
by Pinkypants
My crabbie's been molting in his favorite lil house for 3 weeks & now he's on his side w/ legs a little out & very, very weak, barely moving a leg. Had him 5 yrs. Tank is perfect. Any emergency suggestions ????!! 😢

Re: Emergency

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 2:24 pm
by myllkti
Pinkypants wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:33 am
Since you've come to the emergency forum, we know you want a fast answer to your question. In order for us to figure out the problem as quickly as possible, we ask that you answer the following questions as best you can. Some of them may seem odd, but they're all designed to give us the information we need to give you a good solution for your problem. The things in the [ brackets ] are there to make this post easier to read once submitted. Thanks!


1. What kind of substrate is used in your tank and how deep is it?
It's the same I've used for years, the brick that I add water too but I can't think of the brand name right now. About 4 inches deep.

myl- yes that cocofier and is good. needs 6+ in for a proper molt. can you slowly sprinkle in half an inch to an inch a day? of either cocofiber or sand


2. Do you have gauges in the tank to measure temperature and humidity? If so, where are they located and what temperature and humidity do they usually read? yes, the gauges are located in the middle of the tank about 3/4 towards the top. I keep the temperature at about 75 and the humidity at about 85. He's been happy with that for the 5 years that I've had him.

myl - good!

3. Is a heat source used in the tank? If so, what?
I use a heat lamp, always have, with a timer.

4. What types of water are available (fresh or salt) and how is the water treated (what brands of dechlorinator or salt mix and what ratio is used to mix it)?
He's always had fresh and salt water. I use a kit made by Zoo Med, always have, never had a problem.

myl - zoomed is actually not the best, the most popular are seachem prime and instant ocean

5. What kinds of food do you feed and how often is it replaced?

His basic food is Jurassic diet. Pellets and coconut chips and a little fruit mix with an occasional treat of lettuce or carrot.

myl - pellets are sadly toxic and iirc some of the toxins are thought to interfere with molting

6. How long have you had the crab and what species is it, if known?
I have had him for almost 5 years and do not know the species.

myl - prolly Prurple Pincher :)

7. Has your crab molted, and how long ago did it happen?
He has molted a few times over the years. This time he is coming out of his second molt in only a 3-month period. This time he has not finished eating his exoskeleton and he keeps putting himself on his side, with his legs slightly sticking out of his shell. I have never seen him do this before and I can tell that he's very weak. I give him peace and quiet and not too much light but he's getting worse by the day and I don't know if I can help him because I know he should be left alone for the most part.

8. What type of housing are the crabs kept in, what size is it and what kind of lid is on the housing?
He is in an absolutely perfect 25 gallon tank and the lid is one that I can open from the top in order to care for him.

9. How many crabs are in the tank and about how large are they?
He is alone because whenever I try to give him a friend he would basically try to maul it. I know most of them like friends but he seems to be happier on his own.

myl - aometimes this is true but t does not sound like he has a proper diet. They will attack each other for protein

10. How many extra shells are usually kept in the tank, if any?
He's got three or four extra shells and have has changed them a few times over the years.

myl - great!

11. Have there been any fumes or chemicals near the crabitat recently?
Absolutely no fumes or chemicals near the tank.

12. How often do you clean the tank and how?
The cleanings vary, when needed, every few months. I dump the whole thing and start over.

myl - causes undue stress

13. Are sponges used in the water dish? If so, how are they cleaned?
No sponges in water dish.


14. Has anything new been added to your crabitat recently?
Nothing new has been added. He loves his toys and his hiding places.

15. Is there any other information you would like to share that might be helpful (anything that is regularly part of your crab care, playtime, bathing, etc.)?


16. Please describe the emergency situation in detail.
This mulch was only a few weeks after the last one and he's been down almost a month. It seemed like a normal molt until I peeked in and saw him on his side. I tilted him just slightly toward being right side up but two days later I find him on his side again with his legs slightly sticking out and I can see that he has not finished eating the exoskeleton and is extremely weak, totally out of character. Any way I can help without stressing him out ???! 😢

myl - try using tweezers or a tiny spoon to hand food him. start with the fruit mix and if you have any raw honey also that

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I was a bit blunt at some points and not as indepth as possible because I know you are frantic and would like answers soon, also a few hours is a normal response time, multiple posts are not necessary so soon. I also saw your DM to me - that's great!! Really sorry you are going through this, hopefully after you feed your crab we can discuss a bit more thoroughly but I know how stressful emergencies can be and dont want to delay you too much longer <3

Re: Emergency

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:09 pm
by curlysister
I have deleted some of your duplicate posts, and have merged two of them into this one thread.

I agree with the above, that your crab has not had appropriate water or sources of protein and calcium in the time you have had him. Unfortunately, that can affect long term health.
Also, to clarify - he was underground molting, and when you checked on him he was on his side...underground or above ground? Did you uncover him or was he molting on the surface or did he dig himself up to the surface on his own?

Re: Emergency

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:13 am
by Pinkypants
He was slightly under, not all they way, through the molt. He's done that before, as long as he was inside his fav little house. He hasn't come out of that house in almost a month. When I peek inside I see he's in his shell & the whole shell is on it's side. I see parts of his legs sticking out into mid air.. Way abnormal. I can see he left part of his exo. He's in no mood to eat or drink. Frankly, he may be gone by now, not even responding to my whisper, as he normally would, he knows my voice. I'm afraid to look ! We love these little guys (in general) but they're so fragile & unpredictable, the heartache really sucks, and always wondering WHY?. This may have to be my last one. 😥

Re: Emergency

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:16 am
by Pinkypants
I never uncovered him, he never went all the way under, don't think he ever has actually, not more than 1/2 of the height of his shell.

Re: Emergency

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:13 pm
by curlysister
Aw, I am sorry to hear that. The only way to know what's happening will to to eventually move the hut and have a look.