Coloration of crab vs. amount of light exposure

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Post by Guest » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:44 pm

amnell71 wrote:So, in your opinion, is it ok to let direct sunlight hit the tank, as long as you keep your eye on the temp?
Yes! Rule of thumb...every 6' of distance from direct sunlight source, allowance is 3 hours exposure...so if you are 12' from window...your tank can be in direct sunlight for 6 hours! Just make sure that there is ground cover (rock outcrops, plants and shady spots within the crabitat)...then your crabs will have the benefit of the sun, while still being able to take cover if they prefer...you will see a tremendous increase in daytime activity...
I've wondered about the recommendations against it - they live in the tropics, after all. It seemed contradictory to me, that you "shouldn't" give them direct light. Though I do understand the need for extreme caution, since they are behind a glass barrier, which could have a magnifying glass effect.
I imagine that the recommendations were given due to the fact that not all tanks have glass lids, not all owners are at home to monitor temp and humidity (and if they aren't, I recommend that they not put tanks closer than 10' from direct light source)...and yes I think it was previously suggested for exactly the precautionary reasons you pointed out...some things just evolve into "requirements", and really lose their meaning when you don't understand the purpose...those precautions are still real, but the rule I mentioned is applicable for all distances...where you will have to use judgement, is with temperature...in the summer, I don't use my UTH if they are in a sunny room...and for my tanks with screen lids I use a damp towel over the top...someone in Arizona should not put their tank in front a sunny window where temps go up to 120F...really common sense, but needs to be clarified for younger owners, who may not be supervised with the care of their pets...


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Post by Guest » Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:48 am

Chestersmom wrote:Yes! Rule of thumb...every 6' of distance from direct sunlight source, allowance is 3 hours exposure...so if you are 12' from window...your tank can be in direct sunlight for 6 hours! Just make sure that there is ground cover (rock outcrops, plants and shady spots within the crabitat)...then your crabs will have the benefit of the sun, while still being able to take cover if they prefer...you will see a tremendous increase in daytime activity...
Why is this? What is the reasoning behind it?


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Post by Guest » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:18 am

It is a vector ratio for light/distance with temperature in farrenheit and UV strength as variables. Glass width was used as a constant 5/8"...5/8"= 2 panes of glass per outside window (average).

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Post by Jedediah » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:50 am

Very interesting thread. I noticed that my crabs are active during the day very often. The tank has daylight and I use a incandescent bulb for heating during the day. The crabs will often sit as close as they can get to the bulb and bask. I plan on getting a fluorescent light with low UV later this year.
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Post by Guest » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:59 pm

Chestersmom, I have a new question for you. I went to my little "mom&pop" store today, with some stuff I'd printed out (full report will be in 12 step).

She asked me a question about lighting that I could not answer, and now has me curious. She was reading about the reptile bulbs (the long fluorescent type) and it said that if you put glass between the light and the reptile (I'm assuming it would apply to the crabs) that some sort of diffusion takes place that makes the bulb ineffective, that it somehow messes up the UVA/UVB rays. Do you know anything about this? Are we lessening the effectiveness of our DayGlo bulbs by having lids separate them from direct shining on the crabs?


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Post by Guest » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:33 pm

Short answer...yes....BUT, it may reduce or possibly amplify the rays...and the manufacturer of the bulbs would be the one to assess how it affects the spectrum. I do not know if you can calculate how much...and while the lid is very thin (as compared to the sides), it seems from members using the lights with glass lids, that their Hermies are still responsive to the light..unless a quantative value is established, it is really hard to determine what impact it has on the effectiveness of the light...the point is moot (I love that word), if it is deficient in what they need anyway...lid or not! The heat bulbs or glow bulbs for clamp lamps are a different creature...each individual bulb has its own specs...I think they have them on the box...we just have to read them more closely...

as for the long bulbs...it depends on who manufactured them...they should say whether a shield between causes a difference...they have been using them for fish tanks for some time... most glass lid tops according to Hagen, do not block UV rays...


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Post by Guest » Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:21 am

UV-C, the shortest wavelength UV, does not pass through our atmosphere, let alone glass. That is a good thing, because UV-C strongly causes skin cancer. UV-B and especially UV-A pass through glass more easily, depending on the wavelength and type of glass, but are still blocked somewhat.

So yeah, glass can block UV somewhat. 'Specially those blue-blockers sunglasses. 8)

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Post by Jedediah » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:57 am

Take a look at this website, there 's a table of UV transmission.
http://www.anapsid.org/uvtable.html#transmission
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Post by Guest » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:31 am

Thank you Jedediah...That is a great reference...I didn't post my links as they were too long, too many, and hard to understand...this is a great compilation of the same info, giving the tables, and written by a layman! Perfect!

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