Our Cavipes are actually Violas

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:40 pm

Just wondering but what stores sell them? Are they supposed to stock them?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:38 pm

I think it's one of those things where a supplier mixes them in with a shipment of PPs, other than straws I don't think any exotics are ordered on purpose.

I just want speices buddies for the exotics I have. If I could order a cavi or viola online I'd do it in a heartbeat, and I would gladly pay the shipping, it's got to be cheaper overall than the gas I spend driving to petstores looking for them.

Someone should find a way to get exotics and humainly ship them online, I think many of us who don't have an ethical problem with overnight shipping would pay for them. Wouldn't that be a nitch market?

However it seems like less people are selling crabs online instead of more. For those with inhumain shipping practices fine, but.....

I have a feeling PPS may be driving them out of business. A lot of those companies have a gaurentee, if the crab is lost to PPS the company refunds them in full, but the company is still out overnight shipping that they can't get back. I wish crabagepatch sold Indos that weren't jumbos.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:15 pm

I once heard this happens a petcos. I guess It could happen anywhere. If you had the chance to get an exotic would you? I mean it is kind of a special thing.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:11 am

Oh, yeagh, plan to go on the hunt soon. I have Rugs, Straws, Cavi, Viola, I'm missing Indos. I'd always have a tough time passing up an exotic.

Mokulele_Hawai'i · Post by **Mokulele_Hawai'i** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:12 pm

I think some C.violascens ( that had already been imported to the U.S. for years ) has been misidentified as C.cavipes due to the fire-red color of their antennae.

Here in Indonesia, most small / juvenile C.violascens are in totally fire-red color and as they grow older, they will get more purplish or bluish tint on their limbs.

The color variation of C.violascens is similar to that of coconut crabs ( depending on their diet and probably age ).

I believe that the C.cavipes are always brown or black ( never red ).

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:33 am

And I'll mention again, you have the most gorgeous crabs!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:34 pm

I want a viol! They look SO BEAUTIFUL!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:07 pm

Okay...then what on earth are these??? I thought I had Cavs, but maybe not?!?!?!?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:28 pm

wow, I love seeing the pics of your crabs Mokulele_Hawai'i! They are so beautiful. It makes me want to get some of the C.violascens!!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:59 pm

Hey Kathy,

I think the brown one is a cavi, and the other is a Viola. I rembered when you were mistified that the "cavi" came up from her molt looking so purple, but I think that's the color she's supposed to be.

tonycoenobita · Post by **tonycoenobita** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:37 am

*Kathy* wrote:Okay...then what on earth are these??? I thought I had Cavs, but maybe not?!?!?!?

I think the brown one should be C compressus...
The other one may be only C rugosus.

HERMEZ · Post by **HERMEZ** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:17 am

very shocked you would say that Tony--I agree more with crabber--the purple one looks like ones you own. Can you point to the differences that make you think that?

Kathy are the brown crabs feeler antenna red?

Mokulele_Hawai'i · Post by **Mokulele_Hawai'i** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:30 am

tonycoenobita wrote: I'm not sure about this one ... perhaps it's an E'.

I'm almost sure that this one is a C.violascens - since it has no visible "stitch" mark (stridulatory ridge) on the BP (like that on rug, straws, E', CC, or Okinawan). The second lower segments of each walking leg are also longer that the lowest ones ( it's typical to Violets ).

HERMEZ · Post by **HERMEZ** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:35 am

NO way I think the brown one is an E--boy this is getting real crazy now

Post by **JediMasterThrash** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:09 pm

I can gaurantee that the brown one is not an E. The back-left-leg segment has the cav/brevi/viola twist to it. Very different from the E's. Also, E's do not have the large antenna bases that this crab has. Between the three choices, my vote is for cav.

The purple one is definitely a viola though.