Controlling teachers

Crabby Abby · Post by **Crabby Abby** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:20 pm

Love the gas story. I totally share your frustration with bus drivers. Ours is vying for a position with Nascar. She whips corners, careens into school driveways at high speed, hits the brakes and sends kids flying and she flattened both a stop sign and a street sign by driving over them! Please tell me why she's still driving!

JojoA · Post by **JojoA** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:43 am

All those drivers are probably still driving only because the school can't find enough qualified people to drive bus. My kids' bus driver is a great guy. If my kids aren't at the bus stop, he calls our house with his cell phone to see if they're coming. He knows that if they miss the bus, with both my husband and me already being at work, there's no way for them to get to school. My kids' school is generally pretty good. There are a few teachers who are burnt out and should retire, but most of them are good, some of them are great.I also think that sometimes the schools get too big and then we lose that "community" atmosphere, and they start feeling more like prisons.

kitty_LHC · Post by **kitty_LHC** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:46 am

I've really had it with my daughter's teacher. I can't understand why she's allowed to get away with the things she does. It's a small countryish school. When I meet teachers who work there and tell them which teacher my daughter has they all cringe and apologize. If everyone knows she's so bad--why is she not reprimanded and dismissed? My daughter has told me that several students have been moved to different classes. I purposefully left my daughter there knowing she needs to learn to get along with all types of people but kindrgarten is supposed to be the good year! THE only good year! I guess by comparison 1st grade will seem fantastic. If I don't like her teacher next year, I'm putting her in a different school. Enough is enough. Two of her friends got in trouble for sharing a chip. One for giving it away, the other for accepting it. At lunch time! In the cafeteria! I know that's against the rules but up until this year kids were told that it's right to share. It's bad not to. Don't they have bigger issues to worry about. I let my students share--especially with me!

NewCrabber · Post by **NewCrabber** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:24 am

Yikes, vying for a Nascar position?! To bad it couldn't be arranged to have her ride as a passenger during a race! LOLJoking aside, that is terrible. I can't imagine why she is still behind the wheel of a school bus except that someone isn't taking this seriously enough or her union is able to protect her. I hope to heaven the powers that be won't wait until something happens before they wake up.JojoA - What is nice man your diver is! Now that is above and beyond!I think some of these teachers really are burned out and/or really shouldn't be in this profession. I feel for some of them, though. They do have it rough. Last year my son's math teacher who is, I'm guessing in her early 30's, did nothing but yell at her kids and was nasty about it, too. I tried to explain to my son that maybe she is having personal problems, maybe she isn't sleeping well, etc., and not that it's any excuse, but he should try to look beyond it and just take what she is offering him, the opportunity to learn. Problem is it just went on and on. I ended up sending a letter to her and explained that I was concerned. That as a parent I do all I can to build self confidence, self worth, etc., and the last place I expect that to be torn down is in school by a teacher. I was surprised by the reply I received. I think because I believed she was sincere. She basically apologized, understood my concern, agreed she had been rough, etc. I had the chance to run into her at a school function this year and she seems like a new person. Why can't it always be so easy.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:05 am

There are good and bad one's out there. My nephew's teacher (I think it was 2nd grade? told the class that they were the stupidest class she had ever taught).However, I think teachers are the most under-appreciated working group out there. Their pay is insulting and they don't get the support they deserve. I personally believe that a teachers starting salary should be higher than most doctors. After all, where would all the star sports players or star surgeons be if not for their teachers? They never would have made it to college.California wants to change their laws, which is a bad idea. They want to base a teachers pay on the success of their classes. That might sound good on the face, but underneath it's a bad idea. In affluent school districts, that might make sense. Problem is that CA has a lot of poor districts. Parents who work multiple jobs and are never home. Poor supplies. No community support. These are the areas that need more teachers. Who will teach in these areas if they know that they will never be able to make enough to survive because most of their students are failing? In most cases it's not the teachers fault, but the area they choose to teach in. They also want to change it so that a new teacher's trial period will go from 2 years to 5 years. During that time the teacher can be fired without cause. I had a teacher in high school who passed her class 'cuz she was new and most of the kids didn't want to learn and didn't do the work. If she had failed those that should have, she would have lost her job, even though she was a great teacher (one of my favorites). If a teacher can be fired any time during a 5 year period, how many kids will graduate high school (only 4 years), without knowing how to read? That scares me too.Okay....I'm ranting again. Parents shouldn't be afraid to speak up. Don't take answers like "We're busy". Force them to listen to you. Write letters to anyone. I'm a big letter writer. I'll write to the Governor even, if I feel like I'm not being listened too. But that's just me.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:15 am

ive got even worse stories..for 2 years my science teacher used to poke fun at me behind my back..if i asked to use the bthroom..the entire time i was gone..he would make fat jokes and about how he couldnt believe i made it out of my chair (6th gradish)...for at least ayear i went home crying everyday...and of course all my fake friends/classmates laughed it up...that same teacher later that year was pulled for a sexual harrassment case...i raised my hand...my mom told me to keep it quite..not make a scene..but my spitfire gma stood behind me..so while the 4 other girls were testifying about him saying that "girl's that wear short skirts are asking/deserve to be raped" i was slamming him on the complete emotional destruction. At the time i thought that my plight was not as important as theirs..but now i think it is much more. saying general crap and torturing an individual child is different...after lots of lawyers..the school paid him 28k to leave...and he bought a brand new dodge ram and went to a school 15 min away...which was the next town..since this is out in BFE...

kitty_LHC · Post by **kitty_LHC** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:44 am

OMG! That's horrible. How long ago was this? I know there's a teacher shortage and all but that's no excuse to let a man continue to destroy lives. His certification should've been revoked even if he didn't do jail time for harassment. And I hate to say this but I as a mother, I am disturbed that your mother gave you that advice. Go grandma! And it wasn't just those who were harassed that will suffer. Everyone who heard him say those remarks will suffer. Statiscally speaking, odds are someone in that class will get sexually assualted or will sexually assualt someone. Those students have already heard from an authority figure that it's the girls fault. Also, some of those thin kids won't stay that way. As the pounds grow in their adulthood, they will be haunted by what that teacher said (and hopefully, at their own laughter).

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:14 am

bout 10 years ago near possum kingdom lake, texas...his wife taught there too and his son was a grade above me... there are very few people that i judge/hold anger for and he is one of them...i was less than a couple of months from my father getting sent to prison (which he is still in) and was in the most emotionally trivial time in my life...i have been through much worse since then...but i tried committing suicide several times back then...it started shortly after his stuff started..and ended less than 2 years later...i woudl never try anything like that again..but i think if i ever had a chance at succeeding it would be been bc of the overall feeling he gave me.... and how i assumed that everyone felt that way as they laughed with him... the fact that any other child could go through that bc of him..which im sure many have....is enough for me to wish he was either doing life in prison or not exist at all...thats malicious...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:24 pm

That is really strict! I am lucky enough to be in a private school, but things are still not great. In second grade (I am in 6th now) I made up this imaginary world and I enjoyed talking about it, writing stories about it, and speaking in this language I made up with my friends for the world. My teacher brought me up one day in front of the entire class (Luckly only 12 kids including me) and started telling me how the world I made up wasn't real. I already knew it wasn't real, but she told my I had to stop talking about it, role playing as characters from it, and *Gasp!* Writing stories about it, I loved and still like to write fantasy stories, how could a teacher discourage writing. Since I had been working on making up this world since I was 2 and that is mostly what I did my entire life, I didn't know what to do. At the beggining of 6th grade, we also were not allowed to wear coats in the classroom, but that was mainly to make sure we were not hiding out of dress code clothes. When the school turned the heat down (I also live in New England) to save on bills, the teacher let us wear coats if we unzipped it when we came in so she could see we were in dress code, then we could zip it back up again. Maybe compromise and go up to the teacher directly? Sorry the post was kinda long... I think.