Live plants

[Da_Stos208]

Does anyone know which species of ferns are crab-safe, or are all of them safe?

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[wodesorel]

They should be safe, so long as they are actual ferns and not something fern like or fern leafed.

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[LadyJinglyJones]

For consideration, there was a fern species that gave me pause, as it was listed in a piece of lit concerning chemical defenses of plants against insects.

This fern, the common polypody ( Polypodium vulgare ), also called common fern (but, i mean, how many plants are called 'common fern'? A LOT would be my guess... a ridiculous number of ferns are probably called common fern), was listed as producing a phytoecdysone to repulse insects, and as these chemicals are effective by messing with insect moulting, it may be worthwhile to leave this species out of a crab tank. I don't know about the rest of the genus. This is something that perhaps could bear some looking into.

Image from wikipedia page & page itself below:
by Andre Karwath

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypodium_vulgare

And my source lit can be found under 4.1.1.7, Terpenoids, in Plant Defenses Against Insect Herbivores http://dx.doi.org/10.3390/ijms140510242

Boop.

[GotButterflies]

Very educational LJJ!


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[erin.leaman]

For consideration, there was a fern species that gave me pause, as it was listed in a piece of lit concerning chemical defenses of plants against insects.

This fern, the common polypody ( Polypodium vulgare ), also called common fern (but, i mean, how many plants are called 'common fern'? A LOT would be my guess... a ridiculous number of ferns are probably called common fern), was listed as producing a phytoecdysone to repulse insects, and as these chemicals are effective by messing with insect moulting, it may be worthwhile to leave this species out of a crab tank. I don't know about the rest of the genus. This is something that perhaps could bear some looking into.

Image from wikipedia page & page itself below:
by Andre Karwath

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypodium_vulgare

And my source lit can be found under 4.1.1.7, Terpenoids, in Plant Defenses Against Insect Herbivores http://dx.doi.org/10.3390/ijms140510242

Boop.

Do you mind reposting this on my topic I made? I'm trying to compile a list and it would be so helpful to have everything in one place! I saw your reply about other threads on live plants and those will definitely be helpful! I want to try to create an official list much like the safe foods and shells by species lists.

[LadyJinglyJones]

Do you mind reposting this on my topic I made? I'm trying to compile a list and it would be so helpful to have everything in one place! I saw your reply about other threads on live plants and those will definitely be helpful! I want to try to create an official list much like the safe foods and shells by species lists.

Do you want to mix safe & unsafe in the same thread? If so I will.

[erin.leaman]

That could be a good idea.

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[erin.leaman]

I'm in the process of growing rooted cuttings from wild plants or plants my mother has had for a long time. It's slow going - especially without rooting hormone & fertilizers designed especially to promote rapid growth.

It'll be pretty funny if the crabs trash them in under a week - but that's why I opted for tougher, woody vines like grape.

Have you tried organic bat guano, organic earthworm castings? I use these in my organic garden and everything is growing great - even in this Florida heat. I have things growing that I shouldn't! LOL! I have a lot of growth on my plants. I do daily and weekly cuttings, and there is constant new growth, even in this Florida sun and hot heat. You should try it. I get mine from my local nursery, but you should be able to buy from Amazon. Organic fish emulsions works good too.

Put a banana peel under the roots. Flower colors improve, and it promotes new roots and leafy growth.

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[erin.leaman]

Some plants that I know are safe off of the top of my head are Wandering Jew, Spider Plants, Aloe... however the plants need to have been grown organically

Edit: Bamboo (not lucky), palm fronds

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So any bamboo as long as it's not the lucky bamboo you buy in stores?

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Because I have a lot of bamboo growing wild where I live. It's called Phyllostachys aurea. Golden bamboo I believe is the common name

[soilentgringa]

For consideration, there was a fern species that gave me pause, as it was listed in a piece of lit concerning chemical defenses of plants against insects.

This fern, the common polypody ( Polypodium vulgare ), also called common fern (but, i mean, how many plants are called 'common fern'? A LOT would be my guess... a ridiculous number of ferns are probably called common fern), was listed as producing a phytoecdysone to repulse insects, and as these chemicals are effective by messing with insect moulting, it may be worthwhile to leave this species out of a crab tank. I don't know about the rest of the genus. This is something that perhaps could bear some looking into.

Image from wikipedia page & page itself below:
by Andre Karwath

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypodium_vulgare

And my source lit can be found under 4.1.1.7, Terpenoids, in Plant Defenses Against Insect Herbivores http://dx.doi.org/10.3390/ijms140510242

Boop.

Do you mind reposting this on my topic I made? I'm trying to compile a list and it would be so helpful to have everything in one place! I saw your reply about other threads on live plants and those will definitely be helpful! I want to try to create an official list much like the safe foods and shells by species lists.

I don't know if Tapatalk ate my response, but one of our mods, AussieJJDude, is compiling a safe live plant list for the crabitat to supplement our care guides.

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[GotButterflies]

Some plants that I know are safe off of the top of my head are Wandering Jew, Spider Plants, Aloe... however the plants need to have been grown organically

Edit: Bamboo (not lucky), palm fronds

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So any bamboo as long as it's not the lucky bamboo you buy in stores?

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Because I have a lot of bamboo growing wild where I live. It's called Phyllostachys aurea. Golden bamboo I believe is the common name

Bamboo is on the safe list as long as it's not lucky bamboo - so I'd say it's safe

[wodesorel]

There are many plants that go by bamboo, not all are safe. You want things in the Bambuseae family. Lucky bamboo is actually a dracaena. There are others as well. Always make sure you can identity the scientific name of something you aren't completely sure of!

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[aussieJJDude]

list is on other computer, but one i remember was pothos, was all the rage a few years back... funnily enough, a few years ago plants were all the rage and now making a comback..
others include
- bird seed mix (like millet, chia ect)
- palms (common back in the day was ponytails, but all palms will outgrow anything under a few thousand gallon tank... keep in pots)
- broms
- air plants (Tillandsia)
- prayer (had great success until the one LED bulb broke, and then it died)
- mangrove

im soon going to be in the process in seeing how well a few begonias and ficus sp. will do in a crabitat enviroment... if i ever get onto my other computer, add to the list on what have been used successfully over the years... i personally go if its reptile or frog (or fish, since a vast majority are terrestrial or bog plants not aquatic) then it should be crab safe.....

[erin.leaman]

For consideration, there was a fern species that gave me pause, as it was listed in a piece of lit concerning chemical defenses of plants against insects.

This fern, the common polypody ( Polypodium vulgare ), also called common fern (but, i mean, how many plants are called 'common fern'? A LOT would be my guess... a ridiculous number of ferns are probably called common fern), was listed as producing a phytoecdysone to repulse insects, and as these chemicals are effective by messing with insect moulting, it may be worthwhile to leave this species out of a crab tank. I don't know about the rest of the genus. This is something that perhaps could bear some looking into.

Image from wikipedia page & page itself below:
by Andre Karwath

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypodium_vulgare

And my source lit can be found under 4.1.1.7, Terpenoids, in Plant Defenses Against Insect Herbivores http://dx.doi.org/10.3390/ijms140510242

Boop.

Do you mind reposting this on my topic I made? I'm trying to compile a list and it would be so helpful to have everything in one place! I saw your reply about other threads on live plants and those will definitely be helpful! I want to try to create an official list much like the safe foods and shells by species lists.

I don't know if Tapatalk ate my response, but one of our mods, AussieJJDude, is compiling a safe live plant list for the crabitat to supplement our care guides.

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I saw the post but I didn't have a chance to respond. Who is working on it? Maybe I can help.

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[erin.leaman]

For consideration, there was a fern species that gave me pause, as it was listed in a piece of lit concerning chemical defenses of plants against insects.

This fern, the common polypody ( Polypodium vulgare ), also called common fern (but, i mean, how many plants are called 'common fern'? A LOT would be my guess... a ridiculous number of ferns are probably called common fern), was listed as producing a phytoecdysone to repulse insects, and as these chemicals are effective by messing with insect moulting, it may be worthwhile to leave this species out of a crab tank. I don't know about the rest of the genus. This is something that perhaps could bear some looking into.

Image from wikipedia page & page itself below:
by Andre Karwath

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypodium_vulgare

And my source lit can be found under 4.1.1.7, Terpenoids, in Plant Defenses Against Insect Herbivores http://dx.doi.org/10.3390/ijms140510242

Boop.

Do you mind reposting this on my topic I made? I'm trying to compile a list and it would be so helpful to have everything in one place! I saw your reply about other threads on live plants and those will definitely be helpful! I want to try to create an official list much like the safe foods and shells by species lists.

I don't know if Tapatalk ate my response, but one of our mods, AussieJJDude, is compiling a safe live plant list for the crabitat to supplement our care guides.

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I saw the post but I didn't have a chance to respond. I was at my little cousins' softball game. Who is working on it? Maybe I can help.

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