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New future hermit owner

Post by annap » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:00 am

Hi guys,
My daughter talked us into getting 1 hermit crab for X-mas for her :D
I need all the help I can get.
I've read all I can and I think i know more or less what we need for Santa to bring, but
for 1 hermit crab do I need 10 gallon tank or 5 gallon would be enough?
thanks a lot
feel free to e-mail me anything you think is important to be a pet owner.
thanks a lot

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Re: New future hermit owner

Post by JamesR » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:48 am

Hi there. Are you sure a hermit crab is the right pet for your family? Hermit crabs are nocturnal animals, most active from around 1AM to 4AM. During the day they often hide or bury themselves. Crabs periodically molt and, during the molt, stay underground for anywhere from a couple weeks to 6+ months. If your daughter is under 13, the crabs (yes, crabs plural---i'll get to that in a minute) will end up being your responsibility. Children below that age typically lose interest very quickly and they are not cognitively developed enough to be able to provide the attentive, complex care hermit crabs require.

Hermit crabs are social animals. Their social behavior is unique in the animal world in the way that it may largely have evolved based on their shell use. In the wild crabs may congregate into colonies of hundreds. The rate of death for solitary crabs in captivity is much higher than when they have companions. Two crabs is considered acceptable, but you never want to keep only one.

Hermit crabs are long-lived, living up to and above 20 years, and require larger tanks as they grow. Two fully grown crabs alone shouldn't be housed in anything less than a 30-40 gallon tank.

The tank's temperature and humidity must be constantly maintained in a specific range. If either gets too high or drops too low, the crabs will die.

The substrate in the tank must be sufficiently deep (6 inches minimum for small crabs). There must be hides for each crab, climbable objects, and at least 3-4 extra shells per crab.

Hermit crabs require a varied diet with many fresh fruits, plants, and meat. Typical store-bought hermit crab foods contain preservatives harmful to crabs.

Outside of what i've already listed, there is enough information you must know about hermit crabs to responsibly care for them to fill a good sized book. Are you and your daughter willing to research all of that?

Hermit crabs are not beginner pets, they require complex, specific care. Nor are they good pets for children unless your daughter's idea of a good time is carefully regulating temperature and humidity for those animals that she rarely sees. There's no "playing" with hermit crabs. Handling them only causes them stress.

Read this post together with your daughter. If you feel anything but thrilled about the above points, you probably shouldn't get hermit crabs.
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Re: New future hermit owner

Post by tigerlovesu95 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:56 am

There is lots to learn about hermit crabs, so bear with me!
Hermit crabs are a social creature. They live in huge colonies in the wild and will get lonely alone. For them to reach their maximum potential, I recommend having at least two. That is one of the first mistakes people usually make when getting hermit crabs. They need a friend! I have 7 currently in a 55 gallon tank.
For one hermit crab, you should always have at least a 10 gallon tank. They are used to having a beach to roam on, so the more space, the better.
For the tank, one of the best things to get would be a plexiglass lid to help you keep humidity. You can do a mix of Quickrite playsand (or just any playsand but this one is commonly used) and Eco Earth (coconut fiber) or straight sand or Eco Earth. I use straight Eco Earth because it makes keeping humidity a breeze. You can buy it in big blocks at almost any petstore that has reptile stuff. For two small-med crabs I would do about 6 inches of substrate. Deeper is better, these little guys love to dig! Plus, they dig under the surface to molt. The substrate should be sand castle consistency if it is sand and damp if it is Eco earth/coco fiber.
You need a temp/humidity gauge. You can look at walmart for a digital one that is pretty cheep (I forget the name, someone else remember?) or go to petco or petsmart for one. Your ideal temp is 80 F and humidity 80%. You will need a covered lid (not a screen lid) to keep in the humidity. You can use spaghnum moss from the petstore (it is not treated) to help keep humidity. You will also most likely need a spray bottle for that. For heat, you can use a dome light and a night glo bulb (so that you can keep it on at all times if you need to and not have to switch from night glo to day glo reptile bulbs) to keep heat. You can also use an under the tank heater if you place it on the SIDE of the aquarium. We usually recommend the next size up if you will be getting one of those.
Hermit crabs have specific nutritional needs. They need proteins like shrimp or other meats. They need fruits, vegetables, and a source of calcium. You can use cuttlebone for a source of calcium.
They also need dishes for water that they can submerge themselves in. You need dechlorinated fresh water and marine grade salt water. Most people use Instant Ocean. The little bottles of "Hermit Crab Glub" and such do not have the full set of minerals like Instant Ocean and other marine grade salt water mixes have. You need to make sure that you are mixing the salt with water that the water is dechlorinated.
http://www.hermitcrabpatch.com/Hermit-C ... -a/148.htm
This is good example of a basic setup. If you look towards the bottom on the far left there are other care guides.
Hermit crabs also need hiding places,lots of stuff to climb on, and shells to change into (not painted ones, they are toxic!).
Hermit crabs are much more complicated than most people realize, and they even require much more care than a dog or cat, in my opinion, though they do not want or need as much human attention as dogs and cats do. I would not get one for a small child without making him or her completely aware of their care, and it is quite complicated. Hermit crabs can also take months to molt, but in that time you still have to maintain the tank. It might be boring for a little kid, but it can also be very enriching if they spend time learning about their care, behavior, and such. They are fascinating little creatures, and I encourage you to keep looking around and reading extensively on these little guys! Here and The Hermit Crab Patch are great places. These are NOT beginner pets, and again, they hide all day because they are nocturnal and people loose interest very quickly. Good luck!
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Re: New future hermit owner

Post by HermieLuv<3 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:09 pm

As you can see, this is the best place to be if you own hermit crabs. The people here are great! I'm new to hermies and this forum and members saved me. That said I got my first Hermie for my 3 year old and he LOVES them. He definately cannot take care of them so they have become my responsibility and addiction. :D I just wanted to tell you it seems like sooo much but with help here you can take care of 2 hermies and your daughter may lose interest but you probably wont. Also my hermies party all night but also are very active from around 10-11am for a few hours so we get to enjoy them during the day. Maybe not all are like this but I have 2 tanks and both are active during the day... I think hermit crabs are amazing pets for children... Just nothing like a dog! Lol. And it is more work then you would think.... Good luck! :)
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Re: New future hermit owner

Post by wodesorel » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:14 pm

I would suggest that you take a moment and read through our Care Guide. :) It covers most of the information you would need to know about a suitable home for them, how to care for them, and what would need to be purchased. The pet store will make them out to be cheap pets, but by following the store's guidelines the crabs will probably only live for a few months at best, while, like James said, they should live for decades with proper care.

http://www.hermitcrabassociation.com/pa ... abCare.pdf

We also have a guide on how to put together a 10 gallon tank:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=76148
Two very small crabs (think dime-sized) would be happy in there for at least year, probably longer, but unfortunately it's not a permanent home as they will grow.

The initial set-up is not inexpensive, but the good news is that the daily care is very inexpensive. If you use food items that your family eats, the only costs are really the energy used to heat the tank, and dechlorinator once every year or two to treat your tap water. They also don't need a lot of time every day, but there are daily things that would need to be done.

And I do have to agree with James about children loosing interest after a short while. Crabs aren't very interactive, and some children (and adults) don't find that to be very fun once they realize thsat. They aren't going to run up to you or take treats from you, and you can't really pet them. If you have a child who likes nature or who is sciency then hermits would probably make an ideal pet as they would be happy just observing, but they are very much like owning a spider or scorpion in that they are a watch rather than handle type pet - not for everyone.

Not trying to discourage you! Just trying to put things out there to think about. I realize they're just a small little critter, but they are still a pet just like any cat or dog, and I don't like to see anyone jump into ownership without having all the information at their fingertips first. :)
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Re: New future hermit owner

Post by SoulLonely » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:48 am

In deciding if hermit crabs are a right pet for your daughter, it depends on the person. I kept fish from when I was really little and took care of them. So not every kid is going to get sick of a pet and stop caring for it. It will be up to you to decide if hermit crabs will make a good fit for your daughter based on how you know her :)

Others mentioned reading our careguide on the site to help you make your decision, which I think is great! :D
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