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Re: I made a water thing

Post by daws409 » Wed May 24, 2017 1:00 pm

Silicone doesn't bond well to plastics... I'd stick with zip ties

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Post by DarthKrab » Wed May 24, 2017 3:32 pm

daws409 wrote:Silicone doesn't bond well to plastics... I'd stick with zip ties

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Good to know! I hope the small rocks I used the silicone adhesive stay for a while :(

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Post by ErikRasmussen » Sat May 27, 2017 12:11 am

My pools are still good to go and are not leaking yet! =D and zip ties wouldn't have helped me much in this case

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Re: I made a water thing

Post by wodesorel » Sat May 27, 2017 4:25 am

It's the oils in the plastic. (It is made from petroleum after all.) Eventually these oils will eat away at the silicon and loosen the bond. It's not usually a super quick process, but the problem is there's no way of knowing when it will fail. What you designed is not a danger to the crabs so I personally don't think it matters that much - just be prepared to have to replace it at some point in the future, and know that new silicon won't stick to dried silicon so patching is out. The major 'send the sirens wailing' problem is when someone uses plexi for built-in pools - those fail catastrophically and end up flooding the entire tank so they are not recommended. It usually takes 6 months to a couple of years before they blow though so people get confident that nothing bad will happen and then overnight they have a tankful of dead molters. :/
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Re: I made a water thing

Post by DarthKrab » Sat May 27, 2017 6:24 am

wodesorel wrote:It's the oils in the plastic. (It is made from petroleum after all.) Eventually these oils will eat away at the silicon and loosen the bond. It's not usually a super quick process, but the problem is there's no way of knowing when it will fail. What you designed is not a danger to the crabs so I personally don't think it matters that much - just be prepared to have to replace it at some point in the future, and know that new silicon won't stick to dried silicon so patching is out. The major 'send the sirens wailing' problem is when someone uses plexi for built-in pools - those fail catastrophically and end up flooding the entire tank so they are not recommended. It usually takes 6 months to a couple of years before they blow though so people get confident that nothing bad will happen and then overnight they have a tankful of dead molters. :/
That sounds horrible :( and here I was thinking that I would get a built I'm pool eventually :(

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Re: I made a water thing

Post by ErikRasmussen » Mon May 29, 2017 10:55 am

The reason I used the plastic canvas to glue the rocks too is so I could pick them up easily and put them in a better looking glass container eventually. I have the water levels staggered so I can tell when it equalizes. Additionally the rocks are also glued to themselves so at this point if I were to cut/tear away the canvas from the rocks they would still hold their shape =D


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Re: I made a water thing

Post by ErikRasmussen » Mon May 29, 2017 11:04 am

I have been able to snap some pics of them figuring out the pools. So far only the Es have done any major exploring.

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Post by GotButterflies » Mon May 29, 2017 11:13 am

Great pictures! :) Love the matching shells! That is cute!
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Post by ErikRasmussen » Mon May 29, 2017 11:25 am

When i got them they were in matching shells, and then they switched into matching shells, they have to be related. But it can be a problem because unless i have them right next to each other to see their size and temperament I can't tell who is who anymore lol in the what are you crabs up to thread i posted a picture where they fell asleep next to each other in a yin yang, it was perfect

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Post by GotButterflies » Mon May 29, 2017 12:17 pm

That's awesome!!


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Re: I made a water thing

Post by Bmoyer » Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:17 pm

How does that silicone do with the rocks in the salt water?


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Post by aussieJJDude » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:11 am

rather well due to rocks being porous... as long as it is aquarium safe silicone....
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Re: I made a water thing

Post by ErikRasmussen » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:01 am

Totally safe silicone. And i have never had a problem with rocks and silicone and salt water =)

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Re: I made a water thing

Post by Astronna » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:03 pm

Why don't people just have a glass bowl or something like that for the "built in" pools? No seams to worry about, if it's pyrex it's rather sturdy, and you can just bury it most of the way for the in-ground effect. Is there something wrong with that method?

Anyway, the pictured pools look gorgeous. Loving the little plants for climbing out :)

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Post by aussieJJDude » Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:46 am

As a glass bowl isnt a built in. Built in basically mean that they are... built in. :) many have used glass bowls for cook ware and report that it works well, i just never tried it

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